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[Migs]

Thanks for your insight. But won't my AS come up when I am asked "do you have any mental condition" on the psych examination? I understand that lieing on any examination is a federal offense, something I do not wish to do.

[walford]

Thanks for your insight. But won't my AS come up when I am asked "do you have any mental condition" on the psych examination? I understand that lieing on any examination is a federal offense, something I do not wish to do.

If there is no public record of any psych treatment [such as being involuntarily commited], you should not say yes about it. If this makes you nervous, don't apply to wear any kind of uniform. You will see similar questions for many civilian jobs. I would advise you to answer "no" on those as well. It is none of their goddamn business.

[Michigun]

Only way to know is talk to a recruiter. Your adderal thing should be fine since youve been off of it for so long. You could lie about it but if your job requires a high security clearance then they might end up finding it.

[Migs]

If there is no public record of any psych treatment [such as being involuntarily commited], you should not say yes about it. If this makes you nervous, don't apply to wear any kind of uniform. You will see similar questions for many civilian jobs. I would advise you to answer "no" on those as well. It is none of their goddamn business.

I mean I was seeing a doctor once every two weeks in 7th grade just to talk about the treatment (as I mentioned in my wall o' words)...involuntarily commited means like a psych ward? I dont mention my AS with jobs because it really doesn't apply.

[Migs]

Only way to know is talk to a recruiter. Your adderal thing should be fine since youve been off of it for so long. You could lie about it but if your job requires a high security clearance then they might end up finding it.

everything I have researched said don't lie (federal offense)

[walford]

I mean I was seeing a doctor once every two weeks in 7th grade just to talk about the treatment (as I mentioned in my wall o' words)...involuntarily commited means like a psych ward? I dont mention my AS with jobs because it really doesn't apply.

Involuntarily committed means that you did something [e.g. suicide attempt, assault] that caused a judge to order you to be put into a mental institution for evaluation, then the shrink said you need to stay there. Those types of things will generate public records that the military will be able to discover.

You getting treatment by a mental health professional [as an adult or a child] is strictly confidential. The shrink is not obligated to reveal the treatment [unless you said you were going to hurt yourself or others] and neither are you. If you honestly think that you are not capable of serving in the military, then don't apply. If you do, then do so and keep your confidential info to yourself.

I recall when I applied to join the Army, a recruiter told me later than I shouldn't have said anything about my juvenile asthma. It created a delay seeking information that otherwise would not have come out.

As it turns out, the delay was long enough wherein I was offered a job in the civilian world and took that instead. I regret that to this day; having military service under my belt would have continued to help me.

[DS73]

make new tests.
The fact that you were going somewhere because some doctor said something means nothing.
Doctors aren't gods.

[Migs]

Involuntarily committed means that you did something [e.g. suicide attempt, assault] that caused a judge to order you to be put into a mental institution for evaluation, then the shrink said you need to stay there. Those types of things will generate public records that the military will be able to discover.

You getting treatment by a mental health professional are confidential. The shrink is not obligated to reveal the treatment and neither are you. If you honestly think that you are not capable of serving in the military, then don't apply. If you do, then do so and keep your confidential info to yourself.

I recall when I applied to join the Army, a recruiter told me later than I shouldn't have said anything about my juvenile asthma. It created a delay seeking information that otherwise would not have come out.

As it turns out, the delay was long enough wherein I was offered a job in the civilian world and took that instead. I regret that to this day; having military service under my belt would have continued to help me to this day.

Again thank you so much. This was truly bugging me to high heavens. Even though It'll be 1.5 years until I join, It's better to know now then figure it out later. The next step is for me to talk to a recruiter.

[Midav]

I have asthma myself and have looked into to pretty much every possible eventuality and loophole for joining the armed forces. For me there wasn't even a possibility of getting through, for you however there is a chance. One of the rules and regs I kept coming across said having a 'history of asthma past the age of 13' was an automatic disqualification, which I have. I don't know what you would have to do since your history is from the age of 12 as I think you could still get DQed, but it's just not an automatic DQ.

There are some recruiters on this message board and I would hold out for their words of wisdom before I would take anything I said to heart.

That's what happened to me. All the recruiter said was "sorry bud."

[Connaught Ranger]

Why are we getting a sh*tload of

"people looking to join up with health issue"

questions or is it just me?


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...d.php?t=150365

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...d.php?t=150383


Edit:- sh*tload is probably not quite right but is this the start of an epidemic?

[Solomin]

That's what happened to me. All the recruiter said was "sorry bud."

Yep, it sucks. However, to you, JB1628, and anyone else in a similar position on mp.net, there is more than one way to serve your country. Although it sucks at 1st, sucks a lot, being told you can't be in the armed services, there are other ways to help protect the nation.

I know for a fact, Federal Law Enforcement agencies will take people who have asthma. This isn't just for desk jobs or analysts, but for Special Agents. I'm not sure on each agencies procedures, but for me I had to have my private specialist sign off, saying I was fit for duty and that was it.

[Michigun]

I think the military has ways of getting around those sealed documents if and when they need to run a security clearance.

[Bulletproof]

To increase your chance, bring a paper from your doctor saying that your asthma is «light» and you're able to serve. (didn't workout in my case T_T)

[2Sheds_Jackson]

I'll say right up front that I know nothing about the recruitment process...but my gut agrees with Walford on this. Why in the world would the military care about anything you were subjected to as a child? I mean, you're totally at the mercy of your parents and MDs who are pushing drugs on you...there's no way to know if you've got a legitimate problem or not. The same goes for voluntary treatment as an adult, really. The only thing that would seem to matter is like Walford said - if your behavior was outside the norm enough to have engaged the legal system and you got involuntarily committed to treatment.

Think about it- I joined the USAF in 1982 - at that time, if you were a weird kid, you were just a weird kid. Or if you were hyper, they'd send you outside for 12 hours a day until you ran yourself to exhaustion. Today, they'll diagnose you with some syndrome that pharmaceutical companies came up with when they accidentally invented a pill to cure it...and you're stuck with it.

[Migs]

Still though, I would really like someone here who has recruiting experience to comment on this thread. Even though much comments have been truly helpful, someone with actualy experience will help me hit the nail in this coffin.