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    Default Tribute to Modern and Cold War Soviet/Russian/East European Artillery Systems

    Good Day,

    I do not think this topic exists as its own forum, but I wished to start a discussion and collect photos, videos, information on post Second World War Russian/Soviet/WP/Eastern European Artillery. My focus has been on mobile Artillery systems and Anti-Aircraft Systems and even the occasional Self Propelled Gun (ASU-57, ASU-85). I think the Artillery museum in St. Petersburg is a good place to start for a look at a great collection.

    Which systems do you think are the most impressive, have made the greatest leap in technology and have had the greatest impact on history, the Cold War and in modern warfare?

    I am also hoping this forum will become the basis for possible model makers who will take to making kits of these systems, as they do not exist currently. The systems below have yet to be made as a non computer 3D model or in resin or plastic in small scale. Any discussion on the actual systems, history, pictures, personal experiences and modelling is welcomed!

    Not yet Produced as Small Scale Models:
    2S4 Tulypan
    2S5 Giganist (GIAZINT)
    2S7 Pion
    2S19 MSTA

    SA-11 Gadfly
    SA-15 Gauntlet

    Photos of some of the systems above:

    2S4
    [*******#417394]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2S4_Tyulpandotjpg[/COLOR]
    [*******#417394]http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/arms...tar_Tulpan.htm[/COLOR]
    2S5
    [*******#417394]http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/Arms...d/Giatsint.htm[/COLOR]
    2S7
    [*******#417394]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2s7_piondotjpg[/COLOR]
    [*******#417394]http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/arms...ion_SP_Gun.htm[/COLOR]
    2S19
    [*******#417394]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2s19_msta-sdotjpg[/COLOR]

    Thanks to all for your(future) contributions!
    Rich
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    Handmade 1/87 models of the SA-3 Goa on a T-55 Chassis, and a SA-2 on a T-55 Chassis...photos of the real ones are rare...but these models are phenomenal!


    Cuban, I think??



    An East German 1/87 model of the Frog 4 I think, matched against a photo of a FROG 3!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanX3 View Post


    2S5 Giganist
    You meant GIAZINT, Russian love to name their guns with flower names

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    Sigmund Freud's dream .
    Compared to Dora - this is just child's play

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    A pretty rare (never produced) ...
    ZSU-37-2 (ЗСУ-37-2/2А1 Енисей)


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    Yes, they are impressive! The Frog 3 in the photo was only made in 1:144 scale, but the Frog 4 model is relatively easy to find in 1/87 if you check on ebay.de, as they were made in East Germany by a company called Espewe and later by other manufacturers. As well, if you wish me to help find you one, please email me at richbasas@hotmail.com! It is very impressive indeed!
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    Yes, Spelling of Giazint is difficult (as I dont speak russian nor knew what a Giazint was), and often it is spelled differently it seems! What kind of flower is it?

    I know the rocket artillery systems Smerch and Uragan are types of fountains....also I think Smerch is a great name for a cat!!

    Did I spell Tulypan correctly??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronguild View Post
    A pretty rare (never produced) ...
    ZSU-37-2 (ЗСУ-37-2/2А1 Енисей)


    ZSU-37-2...amazing...where did you find information and photos on this system, ive only ever heard about it once....remarkable. Is it based on the 2S3/SA-4 Chassis???



    Here is another one I discovered recently...not sure the history of it, but here it is:
    http://www.tracks-n-troops.eu/shop/i...14411f021d2542

    SU14 BR2 Heavy Tank



    I've only seen it as this model and in one game..Not sure if its post WWII, likely pre-WWII!..but impressive!!!

    Cheers,
    MilanX3
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    Here are some other model photos....Akacia, Experimental FROG and SA-4 SAM Artillery!!!



    2S3 Akacia model, followed by a 2S3 in Chechnya I think...might be knocked out...


    Not sure what this is, a FROG 3 missile on a ZIL-135? Maybe an early FROG-7?


    SA-4 Ganef...Russian 2K11 Krug designation I think. SA-4 1/87 Handmade model next to a detailled drawing of this beast. I have a hard time picturing this missile actually taking off!
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    Default Photos of Central Artillery Museum - St Petersburg!!

    [FONT=Arial]Central Artillery Museum, St.Petersburg, Russia [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial]Vladimir Yakubov [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial]Jul 2004[/FONT]

    http://russiannavy.net/photos/st_p_a...m/index_4.html

    more of Kondensator??
    http://russiannavy.net/photos/st_p_a...m/index_5.html

    Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanX3 View Post
    ZSU-37-2...amazing...where did you find information and photos on this system, ive only ever heard about it once....remarkable. Is it based on the 2S3/SA-4 Chassis???
    The chassis is a Su-100P derivative, later used for 2S3, 2S5, GMZ and more.
    Here is a link, in russian :
    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-401.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanX3 View Post
    I have a hard time picturing this missile actually taking off!
    there you go.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uSf1...eature=related

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    A pretty rare (never produced) ...
    ZSU-37-2 (ЗСУ-37-2/2А1 Енисей)

    Great finding. It was very modern and potent in times of its development in late fifties and early sixties. It have stabilization and capabilities to fire on the move. With additional TI to its TV sight and data link could make it very potent even in today time. Cal. of guns and rate of fire is enough for all today targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medo View Post
    Great finding. It was very modern and potent in times of its development in late fifties and early sixties. It have stabilization and capabilities to fire on the move. With additional TI to its TV sight and data link could make it very potent even in today time. Cal. of guns and rate of fire is enough for all today targets.
    A kind of Soviet M247 DIVAD. The design was good (which was not the case of the M247) but the ZSU-23-4 was selected to enter production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanX3 View Post
    ZSU-37-2...amazing...where did you find information and photos on this system, ive only ever heard about it once....remarkable. Is it based on the 2S3/SA-4 Chassis???



    Here is another one I discovered recently...not sure the history of it, but here it is:
    http://www.tracks-n-troops.eu/shop/i...14411f021d2542

    SU14 BR2 Heavy Tank



    I've only seen it as this model and in one game..Not sure if its post WWII, likely pre-WWII!..but impressive!!!

    Cheers,
    MilanX3




    Hey it's the SU14 "School Bus" from World of Tanks.

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