Reply With QuoteNo need to apologise, excellent run down and pics.Sorry for the long post...
Shooting the new KRISS and more
Yesterday a few of us got to shoot the new KRISS Super V XMG. This new system has been written about here, so I won't rehash a whole bunch of the engineering methodology, just report on what shooting it was like: It was cool.
The design eliminates almost all of the .45ACPs muzzle climb, even on full auto runs. It is light, compact, fast, and very ergonomic.
On the weapon there were two selectors one for the safety and one for the select fire (1, 2, full). At first I thought this was bad, but the more I shot it the more I liked the design. It was very fast to move from safe to fire with the strong hand and select fire modes with the off-hand. It has a very short bolt throw (about 3-4 inches) so manipulation of the charging handle is fast. A nice feature was that you can lift the charging handle and do a press check without actually moving the bolt, like on a M4 or MP5. It has rails on top that will accomodate all kinds of stuff. We used an Eotech and steel sights. Of course the Eotech was fast but the iron sights were fast, too. It has a rail under the fixed 5.5" bbl and out tester was fitted with a vert grip, which was nice, but I found myself grasping the mag housing more, which made for faster reloads, but I have short arms. Ape-armed folks may like the grip. Currently they are working with a well-known light co. to mount a light right above the bbl.
It used a Glock 21 mag, which fit flush under the frame. This allowed it to sit flush on the floor, but limited firepower as its only a 13-round mag. They are working on a 20-round mag.
It grouped about 3-5" groups at 15 yds on full auto and you didn't have to hunker down and crank the thing in to control it, either. The design divets most of the recoil down which control muzzle climb, although there is felt recoil, it is minimal. I had a little more felt recoil with the iron sights by maintaining a cheek weld than I did with the heads up Eotech. The triger was crisp, although I didn't get to spend enough time with it to develop single, double, triple shots in full auto like I can with an MP5. I think it is capable of them, it was just me.
Uses for it? It is small enough to conceal under a coat, so close protection work might benefit from it. It would be great for crew weapon because it is light and easily stowed/deployed. In a CQB arena (aisles, hallways, small rooms - and here in the South- trailers) it would certainly be very useful. More useful than a 5.56 carbine or other subgun? I don't know.
Here are couple photos:
And since we were shooting full auto, we grabbed some stuff from the vault and rocked 'n' rolled with some oldies but goodies:BAR, Beretta BM59, H&K MP5 (suppressed), Ingram M10 (suppressed), and Port Said (Egyptian Swedish K):
Sorry for the long post...
No need to apologise, excellent run down and pics.Sorry for the long post...
Wow, thats a strange looking gun! Never seen it before, thanks for the pics
I remember seeing an article about it from the shot show (?), thanks for the pics.
Pretty cool. I didn't think anyone had shot one yet, aside from their design team. Thanks for posting it up, Laconian.
Wow. That's a strange looking gun... but nevetheless I want to try lol! Where's SMG Lee? He's so gonna love this.
It is an interesting looking firearm.
How much does that thing weigh w/ a full magazine.
btw - thx for taking the time to share the pics and thoughts.
^^About 5 lbs
very cool , im diggin the mp5k and the carl gustav
Unlike most, I always liked the design (look) of this gun. Very Sci Fi like.
Not bad, is that w/ the 13rnd mag or which a higher capacity mag?Originally Posted by Laconian
Everything I've read about it states that it's muzzle climb is very low, but not much on mag capacity. Seems to be that it has multiple options though. High Cap, low, etc.
Here's a video I found online, the author is using a version that has a 13rnd mag that fits flush w/ the weapon. Seems to be what you were using, at least from the pics.
http://www.transformationaldefensein...&id=7&Itemid=9
Last edited by ZoneOne; 02-26-2007 at 12:04 AM.
I'll cut you some slack since you're only 15.
Reminds me of the Pulse Rifles from Aliens.
can't see tank crew keen on it rather have an m4 or the sa80 carbine
sort of flash smg
can't seek h&k losing any sleep over it
LACONIAN! Darn you to heck!!! LOL
The team and I were just talking about that gun. Now I'm jealous. Did you get an invite or were you able to set up a demo or something along those lines?
BTW, thanks for the post.
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