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    Default New Scope: GRSC's new 1-4x illuminated CQB scope

    Ed Verdugo has been making sling for over twenty years, he initially developed the sling end plate for the AR15.

    Ed also developed the CQB reticel for IOR Valdada.

    The reverse horse shoe has been a great success for IOR and from the different scope available from the IOR line up that are build with Ed's CQB reticle.

    But not only did Ed design the reticel but he also has a few other tricks up his sleeves. when he approached various manufactures to build his scope, he was turned down by all of them.

    He finally got feed up with the rejections and decided to build the scope himself. But the only manufacture that has production capability that fit his small budget was a Chinese optic company. He took the dive and had then build his third and final prototype. the inital units were build by IOR, and US Optics.

    The final prototype was tested by me for its concept of a easily used mid range scope. power is only 1-4x with illuminations and his improved CQB reticle.

    I believe this makes for a great ideal mid range scope. the glass are very clear, no blur around the outer edge and the reticle is a front focal plane set up which allow for the reticle to be the same size no matter what power setting you are at and a side activated illumination. only thing about it is the illumination is not powerful enough for day work.

    This scope is currently being test by some serious folks over seas and also a few over here Statesdie. It is surviving the harshest climate and abuse and with great results.

    Some might be apprehensive about a scope made in China, but for the price of 350.00 to the consumers, his scope is well made, robust and very very clear. I think it is worth a serious look for your mid range 5.56 needs.

    here are some pictures of the new scope are the reticle.

    1-4x 24 power. the illumination is on and off at only the 0 mark, it is not like the S&B which shuts off the illumination in between power settings.


    Power factor are marked at every half power increment.


    The green mark is the hash for the illumination, but production model will have a more professional notch build into it.


    This reticle is fast up close but not as fast as a EOTech or Aimpoint. but for mid range/CQB / general purpose, this reticle is very efficient.
    once you learn the reticle design, you can quickly place shot on target out to 500 yrds. look at the two circles on either side with the 5 marked on it. it is just big enough to bracket a head at 500 yrds. if the head fits inside the circle next to the five, you just move the target to the cross in the middle of the two 5 circle and shoot. the center is a 1MOA dot with the hourse shoot a clear 18MOA.

    www.grsc.com
    This scope is set to release within the next four months. Ed has put 500 units into production as we speak. I wish all the success.

    Here are some pictures of the reticle at distances ranging from 10ft to 500yds.


















    SPECS
    • 1-4X 24mm front objective (true 1X)
    • 30mm one piece tube
    • fast focus eyepiece with diopter range -2 +3.5
    • exit pupil 1X 24mm 4X 6mm
    • full multi-coated lenses
    • eye relief 1X approx. 3.5" 4X approx. 3"
    • nitrogen filled
    • water proof 3ft for 1 minute
    • shock proof tested at 2000g
    • glass etched FFP GPC M4-62 illuminated reticle
    • illumination reostat has 11 settings with off position between each setting
    • CR 2032 battery
    • battery life approx. 100hours on max illumination
    • spare battery storage under windage turret cap
    • windage and elevation adjustment .25" clicks
    • weight 16oz
    • length 11.25"-12" (dependent on eyepiece adjustment)
    • warranty 2 years
    • MSRP $450 Introductory price $350
    • expected delivery June '07

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    Doesn't look too bad.

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    A little competition for Trijicon's Acupoint !!! ......I actually like this better, specially the price, all we have to see is the quality now.....

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    Yeah, the price makes this one look very appealing.

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    Looks very similar to this http://www.vickerstactical.com/artic...dotarticle.pdf
    made by Schmidt & Bender from an idea by Larry Vickers...

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    Looks interesting, I've never seen that type of reticule before. The price is certainly right, it seems like a lot offered for the price tag.

    Thx for sharing Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little J View Post
    Looks very similar to this http://www.vickerstactical.com/artic...dotarticle.pdf
    made by Schmidt & Bender from an idea by Larry Vickers...
    that is a 1600.00 scope... a little differnce in price..

    Here is another picture of the pre-production sample on a SPR rifle. You can get a good idea on the over all lenght and size on a rifle.

    Last edited by SMGLee; 03-02-2007 at 02:26 PM.

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    Wow and very affordable!!!

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    In regards to the reticule, are any of the dots on the the horizontal plane "lead markers" similar to the Horus Talon? Or are they more for shot correction in regards to windage?

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    i dont like that reticule....its to busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagermeister View Post
    i dont like that reticule....its to busy.
    strangely when in use, at 1X the little horseshoe is actually not that bad..

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    Wouldn't a target wearing a helmet mess with the range-finding system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMGLee View Post
    strangely when in use, at 1X the little horseshoe is actually not that bad..
    well if you say its good to go ill take your word for it. ill have to a keep a eye out for it when it hits the markett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagermeister View Post
    well if you say its good to go ill take your word for it. ill have to a keep a eye out for it when it hits the markett.
    for the price, it is not a bad investment, I will try to get some more pics of the reticle at 1X to give you a better idea if the reticle is busy or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akd View Post
    Wouldn't a target wearing a helmet mess with the range-finding system?
    The circle is suppose to be 10inch so a human head is about 10" top to chin. with a helmet on, you will fill out the black outline of the circle. this will get you in close enough to make a chest shot. This was not desing as a precision scope but a fast reacting 1-4x CQB to 500yrds scope.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoneOne View Post
    In regards to the reticule, are any of the dots on the the horizontal plane "lead markers" similar to the Horus Talon? Or are they more for shot correction in regards to windage?
    It is more a leading marker...

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