Reply With QuoteWhat unit did your dad serve in?Originally Posted by Hydro
Oh, and tell him thanks for his service.
There are still some graves there though quite a lot of dead were repatriated to the UK.
What unit did your dad serve in?
Oh, and tell him thanks for his service.
40 Commando Royal Marines. He was a GPMG (SF) gunner.
And his son joined the TA... ouch!
Back on topic: i was only 12 when i saw the pictures from Falklands on tv and i can remember the pictures of the A4 trying to hit the british ships.
And his son joined the TA... ouch!
There's fair to moderate piss taking on both sides, it's true
He had an absolutely insane collection of photos of the Falklands that hung in the study of his house, both his own and collected from the unit afterwards. I used to have a ex-Argentine US made M1 steel helmet that he picked up from Stanley Airfield after the surrender.
Please show a little more respect. When your country has as long a history as ours, and has been involved in conflicts worldwide for many hundreds of years, there is little option but to bury one's war-dead where they fell.
Unless I am mistaken there are tens of thousands of American war graves in France and other European countries and elsewhere in the world.
The Falklands Conflict was the first overseas conflict in which British war dead were returned to the UK, however it was up to the individual families where their loved ones were buried - some chose to bury their relatives in The Falklands Islands.
It is considered disrespectful to remove remains from a naval/naval auxiliary vessel sunk in combat - the entire vessel becomes a war grave protected by law.
Remember, your way is not necessarily everyone's way.
Just like in Pearl Harbor if I'm not mistaken.
I've just purchased One Hundred Days, by Admiral Woodward; reading the leaf it looks like an excellent read.
It's OK, but IMO not one of the better books on the Falklands Conflict. Woodward's book was actually ghost-written by Patrick Robinson, the techno-thriller writer.
I am a bit of a Falklands obsessive and currently have around 130 books in my collection - if you (or anyone else for that matter) want any pointers on Falklands-related reading, drop me a PM.
This is a very good Falklands Conflict book list, with links to Amazon (UK site) - I'm sure will also be available in the Colonies. There are about eight or nine new books being released over the next couple of months to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Always check the Amazon Marketplace sellers (S/h books), I've had some tremendous bargains there.
Thanks for the offer I'll take you up on it when I'm finished with One Hundred Days.
Woodward was not a popular commander (not necessary for success of course), but his book gives a very jaundiced and distant view in my opinion.
One of my favourites is Reasons In Writing by Maj. Ewen Southby-Tailyour. Maj. S-T had commanded NP8901 a couple of years prior to the Argie invasion, and owing to his passion for yachting had charted the Falklands coastal waters during his tour of duty there. He specialised in amphibious operations (landing craft in particular), and his book covers not only his tour of duty pre-conflict, but also planning, run up to, and landings themselves of which he was a key planner.
As I said, drop me a PM.
Reasons in Writing is good
I liked Falklands Commando by Hugh McManners and Beyond Endurance.
an Excellent book on Part of the Air war in Vulcan XM607 about the First Black Buck op.
Tag..........
Around here there is an Argentine can-opener, some Harrier (or Pucara, I'll ask) shrapnel and the usual coins, rocks, et cetera, from my father's time on the Islands. I will try to scan them!
As to the business of sunken ships, I think I'm correct in stating that those who rest with them are listed as MIA, rather than KIA. My uncle was lost aboard Sir Gallahad [SP?] and is listed as such.
Argentina - Air Force
FMA IA58A Pucara
Stanley (SFAL)
Falkland Islands, May 1983
A-536 A line up of Pucaras awaiting their fate (L to R A-536, 513, 509, 532 & 514). A-509 and 514 were eventually tipped into a pit on site a couple of years later, the rest went to weapons ranges for use as targets.
Argentina - Air Force
FMA IA58A Pucara
Stanley (SFAL)
Falkland Islands, May 1983
A-532 A-514 is also dumped at the end of the runway. A-532 was later taken to a weapons range for use as a target. A-514 lingered around for another couple of years before being dumped into a pit as part of a clear up before the airport was handed back to the local government. Between the two aircraft is another famous Falkland wreck "The Lady Elizabeth" where the SAS hid out during the war and reported back on all sea and aircraft movements.
Stanley (SFAL)
Falkland Islands, September 24, 1985
In the days of RAF Stanley. Visible in shot are 2 Pucaras, a MB339A and in the distance a S61N and a C-130. Taken from the cabin door of Seaking XZ592 whilst attached by a monkey harness.
Argentina - Air Force
FMA IA-58A Pucara
Goose Green
Falkland Islands, July 10, 1983
A-506 Damaged by a Sea Harrier attack during the war, it was subsequently moved to a weapons range where I took another picture of it in a worse condition after suffering the attentions of Harriers and F4s for a couple of years.
Argentina - Air Force
FMA IA58A Pucara
Pebble Island
Falkland Islands, July 12, 1983
A-523 Damaged during the SAS raid in the war, it was shortly afterwards taken to a weapons range to be used as a target. Notice the two Turbo Mentors in the background.
Argentina - Navy
Beech T-34C-1 Turbo Mentor
Pebble Island
Falkland Islands, July 12, 1983
0726 / '1-A-408' Damaged during the war by the SAS, it was shortly afterwards airlifted out by Chinook to be taken to a weapons range for use as a target, but it began to fly again and was jettisoned, falling into the sea and was lost
Argentina - Navy
Beech T-34C-1 Turbo Mentor
Pebble Island
Falkland Islands, July 12, 1983
0730 / '1-A-412' Damaged in the SAS raid during the war, it was shortly afterwards taken to a weapons range for use as a target. See my other photo of the aircraft two years later after suffering at the hands of the Harriers and F-4s. Sister ship 0726 in the background.
Argentina - Air Force
FMA IA-58A Pucara
Goose Green
Falkland Islands, July 10, 1983
A-527 The aircraft took a direct hit from a cluster bomb dropped from a Sea Harrier while taxying for take-off. The pilot, Teniente Jukic was killed along with other FAA personnel in the area. The remains were eventually cleared away a year later to the local rubbish dump.
C-407 Shotdown by a Sea Harrier and Sidewinder during the Falklands War. RAF Seaking HAR 3 XZ597 of 78 Squadron in the background keeping pitch on to prevent it sinking in the peat.Off-Airport - Port Howard area
Falkland Islands, October 19, 1990
C-407 Shotdown by a Sea Harrier and a Sidewinder during the Falklands War. Aircraft belonged to Grupo 6 de Caza. Also in the vicinity (in smaller pieces) was another Dagger (C-404, again shotdown by a Sea Harrier and Sidewinder) and Skyhawk C-215 (naval AAA).Off-Airport - Port Howard area
Falkland Islands, October 19, 1990
CC-CYC (cn 21131/428) getting airborne in a snowstorm on Saturday 16 October 1999. It was the first commercial flight to the Falkland Islands to have originated in Argentina (Rio Gallegos) since the war in 1982. Among the passengers were families of Argentinian servicemen who died during the war.Mount Pleasant (MPN / EGYP)
Falkland Islands, October 16, 1999
UK - Air Force
Boeing CH-47 Chinook HC Mk1
Mount Pleasant (MPN / EGYP)
Falkland Islands, November 1987
Argentina - Army
Bell 205 (UH-1H)
Mt Usbourne
Falkland Islands, October 29, 1985
AE-412 Being used as a ground Target in the "Rabbit Range". Belonged to Batallon de Aviacion de Combate 601 and was abandoned in Stanley after the war. It is being robbed of usable parts to get its sister AE-413/G-HUEY flying again.
Argentina - Army
Boeing Chinook CH47CAE-521 During the Falklands war it was caught on the ground by a Harrier and damaged by cannon fire. It was later finished off by a cluster bomb from another Harrier. The wreckage is still extant in 2002 as it was seen on a documentary commemorating the 20th anniversary of the war. Close by is also SA330L Puma AE-501 which suffered the same fate. Both aircraft belonged to Batallon de Aviacion de Combate 601.East Falkland near Mount Kent
Falkland Islands, October 19, 1990
Argentina - Air Force
FMA IA58A Pucara
Mt Usbourne
Falkland Islands, October 29, 1985
A-506 Being used as a ground target in the "Rabbit Range". Originally the aircraft was attacked and damaged by a Sea Harrier during the war at Goose Green. It belonged to Grupo 3 de Ataque. Close by is Huey AE-412 (ID 230194) and Turbo Mentor 0730.
Mt Usbourne
Falkland Islands, October 29, 1985
Argentina - Navy
Beech T-34C-1 Turbo Mentor
0730 "1-A-412". Being used as a ground target in the "Rabbit Range". Originally the aircraft was blown up by the SAS on Pebble Island during the war. It belonged to 4 Escuadrilla de Ataque. Close by is Huey AE-412 (ID 230194) and Pucara A-506. In the mountains behind is the wreck of a RAF F4 which flew into the cumulo-granite after the war.
A-529 In use as the "Gate Guardian" at RAF Stanley. Originally it was blown up by the SAS on Pebble Island during the war (note holes in centre fuselage). It belonged to Grupo 3 de Ataque. It is believed that the aircraft was destined for the museum in Stanley.Argentina - Air Force
FMA IA58A Pucara
Stanley (SFAL)
Falkland Islands, October 30, 1985
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