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    say hullo to your father mate.

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    Argentina - Air Force
    FMA IA-58A Pucara
    Goose Green
    Falkland Islands, July 10, 1983
    A-506 Damaged by a Sea Harrier attack during the war, it was subsequently moved to a weapons range where I took another picture of it in a worse condition after suffering the attentions of Harriers and F4s for a couple of years.
    Wolfpack - I am assuming that the pix of Argentine aircraft have been taken from another site and that you have also copied the captions. Some of the captions are clearly written by the photographer which I am sure is not you - please state where you got images, so that people are not mistaken in assuming that they were taken by you.

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    Well thise thread can't really be a good one whit out the argentinian point of view.
    By the way where are the argentinians???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordWilliam View Post
    Well thise thread can't really be a good one whit out the argentinian point of view.
    By the way where are the argentinians???
    This thread is not about the Argentine point of view, it is about comemorating something which happened six years before you were born! We have had plenty Falklands Conflict flame wars here over the years, do not try and provoke another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordWilliam View Post
    Well thise thread can't really be a good one whit out the argentinian point of view.
    Do feel free to post Argentine pictures and other media - minus the YouTube-style slander. But, leave the debate to elsewhere. Do take note of DW's warning!

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    Whilst I am happy to listen to anyone's point of view, this is a matter of historical fact and I will not allow this thread to degenerate into another flame war.

    The Falklands Conflict is incredibly well documented even in terms of post-WW2 history, and little if anything is open to doubt despite claims to the contrary from certain quarters. It is interesting that most Falklands-related flames come from Hispanic, but non-Argentine sources.

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    Another site: http://www.conflictomalvinas.com.ar





    Sea Harrier Shotdown by artillery Argentine

    another Sea Harrier
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKfKxBgdjWE
    Last edited by Royal; 03-14-2007 at 03:56 PM.

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    You assumed right dw
    STATEMENT: PICTURES SHOWN ABOVE BY ME WERE, OBVIOUSLY NOT TAKEN BY ME. I TOOK THEM OBVIOUSLY FROM AIRLINERS. NET AS STATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE AS A PART OF THE IMAGE AUTHOR AND WEBSITE.




    That harries looks more like a miss landing rather than a knock out. And as far as I can say is not at the falklands.

    no ejection used?
    snebs were used at the falklands? i remember not
    and land scape is not like the falklands one.

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    I am pretty certain that the Harrier GR.3 pictured was not in fact shot down by Argentine AAA, but in fact was the one severely damaged at the San Carlos landing site (HMS Sheathbill) when it lost power on takeoff. This aircraft was used as a spares source for the rest of the Harrier fleet, but later repaired.

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    Can you detail me about the harrier incident?

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    I agree. Its a GR3 . The only Harrier losses during the conflict were Sea Harrier. There for this picture was not taken during the conflict.

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    The aircraft pictured is XZ989/07 of 1(F) Squadron, which suffered an engine failure on final approach to the San Carlos FOB (HMS Sheathbill) on 8th June 1982. The pilot was Wg. Cdr. Peter Squire (later Air Chief Marshall Sir Peter Squire). The aircraft was later moved to Stanley airfield, and thus to Ascension (by Hercules) on 20.11.82, and onward to the UK bu Heavylift Belfast aircraft.

    This aircraft was definitely not shot down

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    Excelent, it´s new to me that the snebs were used in combat there also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stix@CTC View Post
    I agree. Its a GR3 . The only Harrier losses during the conflict were Sea Harrier. There for this picture was not taken during the conflict.
    I'm sorry, but your information is not correct:

    1. Harrier GR.3 XV789 shot down by Argentine Blowpipe SAM, Nr. Port Howard, 21 May 1982 - pilot Flt. Lieut. J Glover, POW.

    2. Harrier GR.3 XZ988 Shot down by AAA after attacking Goose Green, 27 May 1982 - pilot Sqn. Ldr. G. Iveson evaded capture, ret'd to unit.

    3. Harrier GR.3 XZ963 damaged by Roland SAM off Port Stanley 30th May 1982, lost much fuel and had to ditch owing to fuel starvation, pilot Sqn. Ldr. J Pook ejected and was picked up by helo 31 miles from HMS Hermes.

    Info from Falklands, The Air War (Burden, Draper, Rough, Smith.) x-ref'd with Air War South Atlantic (Ethell & Price).

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