Reply With QuoteNo. Please dont. It draws them in, Its like gays on radar.
That's stupid.Originally Posted by bluffcove
Do I have to comment on those kind of people?
No. Please dont. It draws them in, Its like gays on radar.
I agree. worthless people.
HMS Hermes, HMS Invincible and others ... ... ... very well documented, much coverage earlier in this thread and elsewhere.
OK, let's say that nobody with common sense here believe that ****, only morons, ok. I have my own memories of the war, and at that time we didn't believed that, not then not now.
Now, back to the question, any other movie about other ships?
I'm not aware of any. Other than the Argentine film on the conflict released a couple of years back, the film already mentioned, and the British film "An Ungentlemanly Act", I think that's it to my knowledge. There is a British TV drama called "Tumbledown" about the story of Robert Lawrence a Guards Officer who was shot in the head by an Argentine sniper - it documented his recovery.
Theres a British made short film from 2001, "The Last Post" worth watching, if you can forget the ludicrous ending.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_e_Yy0GK68
Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVw54...eature=related
okay i am pretty sure that the British troops didnt do in reality what was depected in the film about the argentine surrendering, @DW58 would I be right on that subject though that the british wuold have shot that Argentine surrendering? also @Happyslapper i hope that they keeop to the book on the film about the coventry
If Ive understood what might have been a question in your post, the answer is "No" British forces dont shoot surrendering enemy.
Alte VGM Carlo H. Robacio (77) - BIM 5 -
29 May 2011
RIP
Rest in peace Commander Robacio.
QEPD Admiral Robacio
Alte means Adm, his rank was Admiral and VGM means Veterano de Guerra de Malvinas, Malvinas War Veteran.
Nice 'Mexicargentine' accent
A compendium of information regarding the so-called 'assistance' provided by Peru to Argentina during the Falklands campaign I've come across with in the recent time...
Testimony of Air Force Commander, General Hernán Boluarte, before a (then) Peruvian Senate investigation committee, 23 December 1991:
Translated from: MALPICA SILVA SANTISTEBAN, Carlos / «Pájaros de Alto Vuelo» / 1993 / LIMA, Peru )In April 1982 when the Malvinas conflict erupts, there's interest by Argentina in acquiring air assets, so they engage in unofficial negotiations with the Peruvian Government to see if they could purchase some aircraft. The Prime Minister asked me if it was possible to deliver some aircraft to the Argentines, so I told him we could deliver up to ten planes, as long as replacements were included in the negotiations that were taking place (with France) for the procurement of new assets (Mirage 2000). He accepted and thus contract Júpiter II, with provision for ten extra aircraft, came in to play.
(Peru was already negotiating with AMD-BA of France the purchase of 16 new Mirage 2000 multi-role fighters by early 1982 (Júpiter I contract))
We delivered the aircraft to the Argentines and they paid for them. We sold them at 5 million dollars each, that is 50 million dollars for the whole package. I must stress out that the very same aircraft were worth 2 million dollars each 15 years ago - they were 15 year-old used airframes. It was a business transaction, they were not given away for free; instead, it was a profitable situation for our country, given the fact that we had to pay originally 2 million (dollars) for those planes and, after 15 years, we were selling them at 5.
The 10 Mirage 5P had already been signed for purchase by late 1981; they were negotiated in 1978, when tensions between Argentina and Chile arose to the brink of war (Beagle Channel crisis). When tensions dissipated (due to Papal mediation), the pressure to acquire those aircraft diminished and were re-scheduled for delivery by mid-late 1982 or early 1983. Because of the Falklands war and given the losses experienced by the Argentine Air Force, there was - again - a desperate need for acquiring air assets to maintain a credible deterrant (most of all, within the South American context given the tensions with neighbouring Chile and the fact that the aircraft arrived too late to take any part in the campaign in the South Atlantic), so the planes were delivered as quickly as possible. Argentina paid for them an overprice of 5 million dollars each, about 1.5 times - considering inflation ratios - what they had been worth in 1968-1974 (in two batches) when they were purchased brand new by the Peruvian Air Force.
RIVAS, Santiago & CICALESI, Juan Carlos / «Latin American Mirages - Mirage III/5/F.1/2000 in Service with South American Air Arms» / 2010Ten Mirage 5P fighters from the Fuerza Aérea del Perú (FAP, Peruvian Air Force, landed at IV Brigada Aérea on 4 June, flown by Peruvian pilots. Their intentions were to continue south, and the Peruvians also offered volunteer pilots to fight against the British forces. The Argentines declined this offer, but the aircraft were immediately pressed into service, and assumed the serial numbers of aircraft lost in combat: C-404, C-407, C-409, C-410, C-419, C-428, C-430, C-433 and C-436. A number of pilots at Tandil, together with others returning from their deployment bases, were quickly briefed on the differences between the Mirage 5P compared to the Daggers in service with the FAA. Pilots were trained in the use of the AS.30 air-to-surface missile, also offered by Peru.
The aircraft were in fact purchased under the terms of a contract signed in 1981. Negotiations for the transfer of the jets began in 1978, when a war with Chile seemed imminent. The plan was to deliver the Mirages some time later, but because of the Falklands War, they were prepared as quickly as possible and sent to Argentina.
(...)
When Argentina and Chile almost went to war in 1978, the Peruvian government gave complete support to Argentina, as a result of their own longstanding border dispute with Chile. Peru was completely committed to support the former, and FAP A-37Bs were already deployed to Argentina. In addition, it was agreed to sell Argentina 10 Mirage 5P fighters (...). Once the crisis had ended, negotiations were subject to delay. In 1981 a contract was signed covering the sale of 10 aircraft, with deliveries by the end of 1982 or 1983.
An official Argentine Air Force document - circa 1990, as it mentions aircraft C-607 as written off due to an accident on March 1989 - recovered by aviation historian Santiago Rivas, confirming the purchase of 10 aircraft to Peru in December 1981:
Flightline at Las Palmas air base in Lima, Peru, displaying the 10 Mirage aircraft that were to be delivered to Argentina. Photo taken by late 1981. Note the poorly preserved external fuel tanks (aircraft weren't in great shape either):
Oldest aircraft - in service with the Peruvian Air Force since 1968/69 - remained in their original colours (grey and vert foncé) up until the moment of delivery.
Interesting Chris - thanks for posting.
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