Reply With QuoteIsn`t Troppentarn similar to flecktarn, but there is much more gray in camouflage?
Troppen sounds like tropical. Did you seen desert in tropical bushes?
3 colour FT isn´t bad for the landscape of A-stand. If those who shall not be named think that they need something special.....so may it be. I wouldn´t say it´s necessary because the Wüstentarn is not a huge improvement.
Isn`t Troppentarn similar to flecktarn, but there is much more gray in camouflage?
Troppen sounds like tropical. Did you seen desert in tropical bushes?
KSK inspiration, but the smock is missing and the tactical vest is not accurate.
I hope to fix this rapidely
Well... It's flecktarn and you wear a shemag, but apart from that I don't see any similarities with what the KSK uses or has used in the past. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but if you want to look the part, there is a lot to be done and money to be spent.
I know it's not perfect (it's a begining and I'm open to all construtive discution), and I was on the way to buy a moskito tactical vest but after watching some recent video it seems to be remplace by US vest like ciras and PC and MAV
First of all you should decide on what kind of impression you want to do - direct action or long range recon, training in Germany or on deployment to A'stan. It just seems to me you haven't done that yet, right?
seems to me, that i've seen this vest on guys from Feldjäger
If you have the link to the pictures I'm interestedOriginally Posted by Rhein
@nickless
I'm searching a light set up (I already have an old school gear with heavy helmet and mehler vest).
I prefer a german training typ gear (as I know in Astan it's rather a mix between flecktarn and wustentarn)
We are a couple of guys who have started a new team. before this we have done a KSK impression in the team KGW (think there is pics on page 3 this thread), now some of us will go for the DSO unit!
We will do it as an impression.
Some of the stuff we got so far:
SABRE special forces smock and sniper smock.
Mehler schutzweste.
RS DSO chestrigg.
Modified CA36 rifle to G36A2
Does it sound like a good start, besides boonies and regular gear, to make a good DSO impression?
The DSO is not a unit but a military formation that includes different units from the KSK to the Army Music Corps 300, so for an impression you would have to be a bit more precise in what you want to display.
thnx man for your reply!
We do know that.
As far as I know its like this acording to wikipedia:
"Derzeit besteht die Division aus folgende Einheiten:
Stabskompanie Division Spezielle Operationen (Regensburg)
Luftlandefernmeldebataillon Division Spezielle Operationen (Stadtallendorf)
Kommando Spezialkräfte (Calw)
Luftlandebrigade 26 „Saarland“ (Saarlouis)
Luftlandebrigade 31 „Oldenburg“ (Oldenburg)
Luftlandefernmeldekompanie 100 (Regensburg)
Luftlandeflugabwehrraketenbatterie 100 (Seedorf)
Luftlandefernmeldekompanie 200 (Dillingen)
Fernspählehrkompanie 200 (Pfullendorf)
Heeresmusikkorps 300 (Koblenz) "
As I wrote in my post, we did an impression as KSK in our last team. That said we have all the gear left.
But! We want to use the G36A2 "rifle" insted of the G36K and be able to use the RS Mehler vest.
We are pretty sure that we have seen pics of DSO with the G36 rifle, what unit shuld we choose to do a true impression acording to the gear we want to use?
Heres a pic of my friend with some of the gear, not the G36A2 or the mehler vest.
We do have more gear like boonies and backpacks etc.
The G36A2 and G36(A1) rifles are still widely used in the DSO's paratrooper battalions - as far as I know, there are only about 420 G36KA2 and 2100 G36A2 at all in the Bundeswehr, so you can imagine how rare they are compared to 170k G36 and G36A1.
What you usually won't see with paratroopers though is the Mehler "Schutzweste Standard", they use either the "Schutzweste Spezialkräfte" or the IdZ body armor.
Also, I think the rest of your gear looks too high-speed for a regular para or even one in the pathfinder platoons. Don't get me wrong - the Sabre stuff and everything is high-quality gear (and looks very good, too), but soldiers tend to be no geardos and buy the cheaper stuff from TacGear or Tasmanian Tiger instead.
HaHa, ok ok.....
But...., If I want to be one of those 2100 operators that got a G36A2.
Perhaps this is more like it, ISAF?
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/ossg/96wa.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/73/610xmj4.jpg
What unit could this be?
Sorry to say, the DSO is such a good chestrig. Is it so hard to motivate these things to a unit to make a nice impression:
G36A2
SABRE smock
Mehler vest
DSO chestrig
Even if its not a DSO one, some unit that is SF-ish or LRRP or so?
EDIT:
Heres DSO with G36A2
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8718/dsc0137jq1.jpg
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...Operationen%22
Last edited by ossg; 11-18-2008 at 04:23 PM.
The soldiers in the second pic are from Fallschirmjägerbataillon 263. The one in the first pic probably is from Fallschirmjägerbataillon 313, they provided most paratroopers for the 1st GECON ISAF back in 2002.
Your best bet would a soldier from a pathfinder platoon - the smock and pants don't really fit as these soldiers either get the issued smock or seem to buy TacGear at unit level, but the ATXS chest-rig and the HanWag boots don't really fit anywhere else:
Normally, you see the pathfinders use the G36KA2, but some battalions apperently had to turn in their Ks because they were needed in Pfullendorf, so that leaves them with the G36A2.
The only real no-go will be the Mehler Standard vest, then, but what you could do is remove the collar and pouches and wear it under your smock.
EDIT:
How about the FSLK 200? Fernspähkompanie! Or perhaps the Fernspäher Forces within the KSK?
From wikipedia:
"The FSLK 200 is directly subordinate to Division Special Operations or Division Spezielle Operationen of the German Army"
"The arsenal of the Fernspäher is mainly based on stock issued weapons of the Bundeswehr, but with special additions not available to regular troops. The main weapon system is the Heckler & Koch G36 assault rifle."
Also the "pathfinders" whats their german name?
What is most right of all this and most up to date?
Fallschirmjäger, Jägerbattalion, without the Mehler vest?
Thanx for your time and your help!
Last edited by ossg; 11-19-2008 at 01:07 PM.
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