Malaysian Armed Forces Pictures

[hmmwvj]

is it about the typhoon?

Well no. About that, I heard the next fighter deal may not be Su-30MKM again and may be bundled with AWACS from the same country. I don't believe because if strictly true, it leaves only Gripen (less capable than MKM), F-18E (expensive) and Su-35 (very good but TUDM is struggling with the MKM experience and Russian AWACs are no good without Israeli parts. It might well be the same with US AWACs.). For cost savings I hope it will be F-18E or Su-35.

What I heard has to do with weapons readiness and why we never see pics of armed Su-30 and MiG-29. It's a design limitation. I'm convinced the Russian weapons are in Malaysia. But I'm also sure we don't have a single Western air-to-ground weapon for the Damocles.

[ggk]

i already posted an armed mig 29 hehe

but you are right about the sukhoi, so far no picture of it with live missile. That being said the damocles can be use to launch the paveway II (if im not wrong malaysia bought about 60) and if you didnt notice the su-30mkm have a modified pylon.

Russia will license-produce the Thales Damocles reconnaissance and target designation pod for its air force strike aircraft, following successful tests of the system with Malaysia's Sukhoi Su-30MKM multirole fighter. Comparative trials involving Damocles and the Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant (UOMZ)-produced Sapsan and Solux targeting pods went in favour of the French design

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...g-pods-220747/

[hmmwvj]

i already posted an armed mig 29 hehe

but you are right about the sukhoi, so far no picture of it with live missile. That being said the damocles can be use to launch the paveway II (if im not wrong malaysia bought about 60) and if you didnt notice the su-30mkm have a modified pylon.



http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...g-pods-220747/

TUDM definitely has had the 3 main air to air missiles for the MiG-29 for many years and the same weapons arm the Su-30. *In Malaysian service, the MiG-29 more often carries 2 missile types: R-27 and R-73.

I was saying the frequency of arming them and practising with live missiles is very low. Most missile practise is simulated. Firstly war stocks are maintained but Malaysia is not buying enough missiles to support live firing frequently. Secondly there are limitations that come from the design specifications of all Russian air to air missiles which makes live training or expensive. This is why we seldom see MiG-29s flying with even pylons, in pictures or with our own eyes. If you do some research you will find out why, but the reason is not obvious.

As for air to ground weapons, the Su-30MKM should already have Russian weapons here in Malaysia. However it has never received Western weapons to date and integration has not been smooth. There is no definite proof of this being true or untrue. It is however what I asked and was told by TUDM at open day.

The Malaysian MiG-29 has never had any air to ground weapons since its introduction because of its tasking as an interceptor.

[hmmwvj]

On a related note, I found this relating to Malaysia's complaint of not receiving AMRAAM early. It's news to me but might not be news to you.

This is an unconfirmed report saying Malaysia did not receive the R-77 until recently and Malaysia essentially "benefited" from the impression that it had it. Although only Singapore would be interested in knowing and probably would have known the truth, what it may be.
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=525

And this explains the official US policy on AMRAAM sales
http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/in...howtopic=31661

I do know that RSAF received AMRAAM very early. The official Singapore position was that Malaysia had the R-77 back in the late 1990s for the MiG-29 and so Singapore deserved the AIM-120 and was not the first to have an advanced BVRAAM blah blah. Malaysian sources then complained that Singapore received the AMRAAM and Malaysia did not, and this helped shift Malaysia towards buying Russian aircraft.

I do not know if Malaysia received the R-77 late or not, but if so, it would have been happily pretending that Singapore's statement was true, while Singapore got a free ride on the AMRAAM as a result of an impression of its own making, while Malaysia did not get the AMRAAM till later.

If so,

1) That impression did not come from a Malaysian bluff. In the view of Malaysia and many reasonable observers, Singapore has the deep pockets and the will to go out and get stuff once an excuse is available. Malaysia would not willingly provide this excuse.

Obviously then Malaysia did not benefit from any impression that it had the R-77. No other country at the time had a meaningful air force to oppose Malaysia with, R-77 or not.

2) It would also almost certainly mean Malaysia's MiG-29 version does not carry the R-77 and the missile was only introduced for the Su-30MKM. I do not know when the missile entered Malaysian service but the hypothesis corresponds with my above post that when armed, Malaysian MiG-29s always carry the R-27 and R-73. I have never seen one with R-77 in pictures or in the sky.

What does this all imply?

1. Most obviously there are questions of the military balance between the two countries and the US's role in it.

You would also wonder if being the bigger customer allows one to shape the supplier's policy.

2. Malaysia might have received the AMRAAM earlier had it pressed the complaint and committed funds to buy the missiles. Of course it would surely not have blocked Singapore's AMRAAM even by declaring it had no R-77.

3. If Malaysia then succeeded in obtaining AMRAAM earlier it might have had less reason to consider non-US sources of aircraft. Not succeeding would have made a stronger case for non-US aircraft. But the choice of aircraft, with all its consequences, seems to have been decided before its time because Malaysia did not try harder to obtain the AMRAAM. Including by showing the obvious fact that it had no R-77.

[hotel kilo]

credits goes to the photographer.. too bad some didnt put any water marks on them

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PASKAL

Nice find as usual GGK

based on the camoed wet suit I think this is likely 69 diver. If the background is Putrajaya then this is for sure cause they did a demo recently and I don't recall PASKAL ever doing demo there.

[hmmwvj]

It's Putrajaya. Pullman hotel in the background.

[ggk]

Thanks for the correction

i believe its the russian that said malaysia receive the R77. Malaysian never actually acknowledge or deny it. In 1999 Russian upgraded malaysian mig radars to Phazotron N019ME Topaz and immediately in their promotion articles they said Malaysia are the first export customer of AA-12 Adder.

For knowledge sake let me post the Mig-29N upgrade list

1998 Transformer Rectifier Unit -TRU installed, smokewinder commissioned the same year, Head-Up Display installed and Hot brake safety cage trolley upgraded

1998 atsc install air-to-air refuelling system

1999 atsc radar upgrading RVV-AE (R-77 AA-12 “Adder”) capability, Phazotron N019ME able to target two BVR target at one time.

1999 IGTEC sdn bhd installed Solid State Recorder System

IFF using Raytheon IFF and AN/ARN-139 Tacan, GPS dan ILS i dont remember the date

ACMi installed

[hmmwvj]

I see. I wonder who, Singapore or Russia, started the idea.

At the time, I read a lot of Singapore articles with justification based on Malaysia's R-77. I want to dig up the article but the stupid newspaper makes readers pay for access only WITHIN its own country. Uniquely singapore.

[hmmwvj]

<- surprise inside

Sorry about the quality. Snapped a library book with my phone.

[Shawn--]

In the view of Malaysia and many reasonable observers, Singapore has the deep pockets and the will to go out and get stuff once an excuse is available. Malaysia would not willingly provide this excuse..

As always, I just love how e super boleh words are being used.

By the way is it a "feeding the politician" excuse or an 'comprehensive assessment excuse' through a rigorous evaluation system?

And also, "not willingly to provide this excuse" or "inability to provide"?

Subscription of newspaper articles available within its own country? Then why many others are able to subcribe and made online payment whilst they are in/reside to US/NZ etc ?

Then again, too expensive to read or no access to read?

Just like the saying..."Misinformation is what kills people’s perception."

[sepheronx]

Well no. About that, I heard the next fighter deal may not be Su-30MKM again and may be bundled with AWACS from the same country. I don't believe because if strictly true, it leaves only Gripen (less capable than MKM), F-18E (expensive) and Su-35 (very good but TUDM is struggling with the MKM experience and Russian AWACs are no good without Israeli parts. It might well be the same with US AWACs.). For cost savings I hope it will be F-18E or Su-35.

What I heard has to do with weapons readiness and why we never see pics of armed Su-30 and MiG-29. It's a design limitation. I'm convinced the Russian weapons are in Malaysia. But I'm also sure we don't have a single Western air-to-ground weapon for the Damocles.

What struggling experience is there with the Su-30MKM? The weapons issue you mentioning of?

Second, the A-50 is very capable (well, not sure about export variant) and A-100 should be out sometime. If A-100 is up for offer, then it could be a very good deal if chosen alongside Su-35BM. There is talks of Super Sukhoi with India about further reduction of signature and using the Zhuk-ASE radar, if that becomes available would probably be a better buy than the Su-35BM.

[hmmwvj]

What struggling experience is there with the Su-30MKM? The weapons issue you mentioning of?

I referred to this in my next post: There is no definite proof of this being true or untrue. It is however what I asked and was told by TUDM at open day.

As always, I just love how e super boleh words are being used.

By the way is it a "feeding the politician" excuse or an 'comprehensive assessment excuse' through a rigorous evaluation system?

And also, "not willingly to provide this excuse" or "inability to provide"?

The Malaysian here posted that fundamental capabilities important to the operation of Malaysia's only interceptor were installed very late, as much as 4 years after delivery and 6 years after contract. We are obviously here to discuss, not promote, a country's military. Yet somehow you have comprehended even my critical post as a defense in "boleh land words".

Subscription of newspaper articles available within its own country? Then why many others are able to subcribe and made online payment whilst they are in/reside to US/NZ etc ?

Then again, too expensive to read or no access to read?

Just like the saying..."Misinformation is what kills people’s perception."

The newspaper charges for online access to readers in Singapore. Readers accessing from any other country do not need to pay. This would have been clear if you had read my post and not been preoccupied with defending your country against every imagined slight, for free.

It being the only paper and the quasi-official paper of record, information on Singapore would be much less available to the world if they had to pay for it. People have complained about it and the general lack of quality information in papers and this will go on for the foreseeable future. Or is every political thing I read on Facebook nowadays my imagination.

[ggk]

What struggling experience is there with the Su-30MKM? The weapons issue you mentioning of?

Second, the A-50 is very capable (well, not sure about export variant) and A-100 should be out sometime. If A-100 is up for offer, then it could be a very good deal if chosen alongside Su-35BM. There is talks of Super Sukhoi with India about further reduction of signature and using the Zhuk-ASE radar, if that becomes available would probably be a better buy than the Su-35BM.

datalink is still an issue... other than that i think it is still unclear ifMKM can fire western made weapons or bombs

[ggk]

aerodome control traffic simulator kuantan AB thanks to janggofett




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[katon-tin-ton]

any new update ?