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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
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    I am at 90.5 Kilos from 96.5 in a span of about 2 weeks. My first 4 kilos went easy, but the next 1 kilos I had to work hard on it, I believe most of my fat is on my tummy area, any specific routine I should be looking at, to focus on tummy reduction. I can save atleast 4-5 kilos there I am sure!

    My ideal weight should be around 83-84 Kilos, Just 8 more to go!


    Thanks in advance

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    Heard of HIIT?
    Burns the fat and keeps the muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
    Gents,

    I am at 90.5 Kilos from 96.5 in a span of about 2 weeks. My first 4 kilos went easy, but the next 1 kilos I had to work hard on it, I believe most of my fat is on my tummy area, any specific routine I should be looking at, to focus on tummy reduction. I can save atleast 4-5 kilos there I am sure!

    My ideal weight should be around 83-84 Kilos, Just 8 more to go!


    Thanks in advance

    Adu
    The first few pounds (or in your case kilos) you lose is always water-weight. If you are lifting weights also you may even notice an increase in weight (which will be muscle, not fat). Either way, good job on losing the weight you have so far. Just keep up your good diet and exercise and you'll look and feel like a new man before you know it.

    Today I went to the doc to get the shoulder looked at. I gotta do 4-6 weeks of PT, with orders not to do any weight lifting in the mean time. Looks like I'll focus on my diet for that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
    Gents,

    I am at 90.5 Kilos from 96.5 in a span of about 2 weeks. My first 4 kilos went easy, but the next 1 kilos I had to work hard on it, I believe most of my fat is on my tummy area, any specific routine I should be looking at, to focus on tummy reduction. I can save atleast 4-5 kilos there I am sure!

    My ideal weight should be around 83-84 Kilos, Just 8 more to go!


    Thanks in advance

    Adu
    You can't lose fat precisely at one area of your choice. In order to lose tummy fat you need to lose fat all around.

    Adux, have a look at my post a few pages/weeks back. I've been there (and was even more overweight) and have accomplished what you are striving for.
    I lost 26kgs in 11 months. In feb 07 I weighed slightly over 80kgs at 10%BF at a height of 5ft10-5ft11. Ideal by all accounts(well actually I'd like to be an inch or two higher but ok...).
    Why don't you give "my" method a try. Even better than an ellipse trainer or bike would be a Concept2 rower, fancy fitness clubs usually have them.
    Physical exercise/losing weight isn't in any way rocket science, all you need is willpower, because it really doesnt come for free...

    Furthermore you probably lost water rather than fat. I'd recommend you getting a scale by "Tanita" with an integrated fat measurement device. The whole body mass index thing is a bit erroneous really.

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    Did some sparring-type stuff for the first time ever today with a buddy that's been doing it for a year. Just first-time learner stuff, no protective **** and a really bad mat (the room with the good mat had some gay koombaya class going on), He showed me some basic take downs first then we decided to go a couple of full speed rounds (no striking though). I faired pretty well as I rolled him over at least 10 times and he couldn't really take me down easy since I'm just built sturdier. But somewhere in the rolling I got my left shoulder strained to ****. Hurts like a bitch and I can't do any vertical lifting of my left arm, pain's right at the socket..got an ice pack on it now but I can tell the rest of the week is going to suck. It was fun though, want to go again, I'm much more comfortable with this MMA stuff than I thought I'd be

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    Gents,

    Whats the deal with BMI?

    It suggest I should be around 64-79kgs to be normal, though I feel more at home at 82-83kgs

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    Quote Originally Posted by hueresiech View Post
    You can't lose fat precisely at one area of your choice. In order to lose tummy fat you need to lose fat all around.

    Adux, have a look at my post a few pages/weeks back. I've been there (and was even more overweight) and have accomplished what you are striving for.
    I lost 26kgs in 11 months. In feb 07 I weighed slightly over 80kgs at 10%BF at a height of 5ft10-5ft11. Ideal by all accounts(well actually I'd like to be an inch or two higher but ok...).
    Why don't you give "my" method a try. Even better than an ellipse trainer or bike would be a Concept2 rower, fancy fitness clubs usually have them.
    Physical exercise/losing weight isn't in any way rocket science, all you need is willpower, because it really doesnt come for free...

    Furthermore you probably lost water rather than fat. I'd recommend you getting a scale by "Tanita" with an integrated fat measurement device. The whole body mass index thing is a bit erroneous really.


    Can you direct me to your post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
    Gents,

    Whats the deal with BMI?

    It suggest I should be around 64-79kgs to be normal, though I feel more at home at 82-83kgs
    Not surprising.
    BMI is a great reference for skinny women, but for men...bah...
    I'm "supposed" to weigh 54-69kgs, while I weigh 74kgs, and honestly: I'd be a skinny fag if I would weigh 60kgs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
    Gents,

    Whats the deal with BMI?

    It suggest I should be around 64-79kgs to be normal, though I feel more at home at 82-83kgs
    3 or 4kg? I wouldn't get excited about that.

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    Thanks Digrar, Sewen.


    I have started 5 kilometers walks, under 1 hour. Also 50 sit ups, 50 stomach crunches, 20-20 dumbells for bisceps weigh 20 kilos each.
    Though my weight reduction has slowed considerably to around 750gms to 1 kilo a week! Fat accumulation on tummy, chest and thighs.
    Any advices, I am still 90 Kilos from 90.750 last week, Have another 7-8 to go!
    Last edited by Adux; 03-08-2009 at 10:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
    Thanks Digrar, Sewen.


    I have started 5 kilometers walks, under 1 hour. Also 50 sit ups, 50 stomach crunches, 20-20 dumbells for bisceps weigh 20 kilos each.
    Though my weight reduction has slowed considerably to around 750gms to 1 kilo a week! Fat accumulation on tummy, chest and thighs.
    Any advices, I am still 90 Kilos from 90.750 last week, Have another 7-8 to go!
    Yo Start Running, eat less, sweat more. Everyday must be another hill to climb. And you WILL climb it. Be sure to have a lady around after your work out.

    See it works like this...after continuous running for 25 minutes you start burning fat...all around. Try running at intermediate pace (8/9 kph) for half an hour...do that three times a week. Monday, Wed, Friday...then the days in between you walk normally.

    Won't kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    Yo Start Running, eat less, sweat more. Everyday must be another hill to climb. And you WILL climb it. Be sure to have a lady around after your work out.

    See it works like this...after continuous running for 25 minutes you start burning fat...all around. Try running at intermediate pace (8/9 kph) for half an hour...do that three times a week. Monday, Wed, Friday...then the days in between you walk normally.

    Won't kill you.
    What will be the effect on my knee, (5.10, 90.5 kilo)

    The only reason I am walking is because I am worried about my knee, not that it has any problem. Just dont want to create one! Thought I will get to 85kgs, and then start running!

    PS: I do burn around 500 calories every day, is that a small amount(I am moocho tired after that)and plus I am on a diet too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
    What will be the effect on my knee, (5.10, 90.5 kilo)

    The only reason I am walking is because I am worried about my knee, not that it has any problem. Just dont want to create one! Thought I will get to 85kgs, and then start running!

    PS: I do burn around 500 calories every day, is that a small amount(I am moocho tired after that)and plus I am on a diet too!
    Bud' you're 178cm/90kg...If you don't run now, you will never make it for summer. About the knee...run for just two weeks then if it feels strange stop and see a doc...You're on your 20's right?

    500 kcal is good, you don't need a 4-digit kcal runs leave that to retards like my son.

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    Here's a really good article by Henry Rollins
    IRON, from Details Magazine
    By Henry Rollins


    I believe that the definition of definition is reinvention. To not be like your parents. To not be like your friends. To be yourself.
    Completely.

    When I was young I had no sense of myself. All I was, was a product of all the fear and humiliation I suffered. Fear of my parents. The humiliation of teachers calling me "garbage can" and telling me I'd be mowing lawns for a living. And the very real terror of my fellow students. I was threatened and beaten up for the color of my skin and my size. I was skinny and clumsy, and when others would tease me I didn't run home crying, wondering why. I knew all too well. I was there to be antagonized. In sports I was laughed at. A spaz. I was pretty good at boxing but only because the rage that filled my every waking moment made me wild and unpredictable. I fought with some strange fury. The other boys thought I was crazy.

    I hated myself all the time. As stupid at it seems now, I wanted to talk like them, dress like them, carry myself with the ease of knowing that I wasn't going to get pounded in the hallway between classes. Years passed and I learned to keep it all inside. I only talked to a few boys in my grade. Other losers. Some of them are to this day the greatest people I have ever known. Hang out with a guy who has had his head flushed down a toilet a few times, treat him with respect, and you'll find a faithful friend forever. But even with friends, school sucked. Teachers gave me hard time. I didn't think much of them either.

    Then came Mr. Pepperman, my advisor. He was a powerfully built Vietnam veteran, and he was scary. No one ever talked out of turn in his class.Once one kid did and Mr. P. lifted him off the ground and pinned him to the blackboard. Mr. P. could see that I was in bad shape, and one Friday in October he asked me if I had ever worked out with weights. I told him no. He told me that I was going to take some of the money that I had saved and buy a hundred-pound set of weights at Sears. As I left his office, I started to think of things I would say to him on Monday when he asked about the weights that I was not going to buy. Still, it made me feel special. My father never really got that close to caring. On Saturday I bought the weights, but I couldn't even drag them to my mom's car. An attendant laughed at me as he put them on a dolly.

    Monday came and I was called into Mr. P.'s office after school. He said that he was going to show me how to work out. He was going to put me on a program and start hitting me in the solar plexus in the hallway when I wasn't looking. When I could take the punch we would know that we were getting somewhere. At no time was I to look at myself in the mirror or tell anyone at school what I was doing. In the gym he showed me ten basic exercises. I paid more attention than I ever did in any of my classes. I didn't want to blow it. I went home that night and started right in.

    Weeks passed, and every once in a while Mr. P. would give me a shot and drop me in the hallway, sending my books flying. The other students didn't know what to think. More weeks passed, and I was steadily adding new weights to the bar. I could sense the power inside my body growing. I could feel it.

    Right before Christmas break I was walking to class, and from out of nowhere Mr. Pepperman appeared and gave me a shot in the chest. I laughed and kept going. He said I could look at myself now. I got home and ran to the bathroom and pulled off my shirt. I saw a body, not just the shell that housed my stomach and my heart. My biceps bulged. My chest had definition. I felt strong. It was the first time I can remember having a sense of myself. I had done something and no one could ever take it away. You couldn't say **** to me.

    It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I have learned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be lifted. I was wrong. When the Iron doesn't want to come off the mat, it's the kindest thing it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the ceiling, it wouldn't teach you anything. That's the way the Iron talks to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that which you will come to resemble. That which you work against will always work against you.

    It wasn't until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain. When I finish a set that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When something gets bad, I know it can't be as bad as that workout.

    I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly. Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego. I once spent a few weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach you a little lesson in restraint and self-control.

    I have never met a truly strong person who didn't have self-respect. I think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt passes itself off as self-respect: the idea of raising yourself by stepping on someone's shoulders instead of doing it yourself. When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters, billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get off strong-arming people and Mr.Pepperman.

    Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind. And the heart.

    Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long. I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron. Once I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body.

    Everything in me wanted her. So much so that *** was only a fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn't see her very often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness. To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads.

    I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole.

    I see them move from their offices to their cars and on to their suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive stroke. They need the Iron Mind.

    Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron into a single strength. I believe that when the body is strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick depression. My body shuts down my mind.

    The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it's impossible to turn back.

    The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.

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    I did my first 5k on Saturday and I won my age group.

    PS- It was a 5k walk
    PSS- I was the only one in my age group


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    I'm after a bit of advice- I want to start doing some interval training to get back my cardio after being laid up with an ankle reconstruction for some time. Doing a bit of googling, there are a lot of articles out there about how good it is but not many programs. I'm just after something simple, that I can do at my local park for half an hour, and has worked for you guys.

    In return, my gratitude.

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