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    Does anyone esle here think weight training is overrated? I haven't lifted weights in over 3 years and I'm stronger than ever. All I do is play basketball, push ups and stairs. My 1 step vertical leap is 41 inches and I can bench 290 pounds at 185 pounds body weight.

    I honestly think body weight exercises, running and plyometrics are the way to go.

    -Dima

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    Thats a good weight to be benching.

    Personally i like weight training, i'm a thin dude and its really helped me to gain much better muscle definition, not to mention getting me to the stage where i can actually perform own body weight exercises to a comfortable degree. When i first started training there was many exercises i just didnt have the strength to do but now are no problem. Adding weights to own body weight exercises i've found helps loads too.

    Definetly a place for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimasorokine View Post
    Does anyone esle here think weight training is overrated? I haven't lifted weights in over 3 years and I'm stronger than ever. All I do is play basketball, push ups and stairs. My 1 step vertical leap is 41 inches and I can bench 290 pounds at 185 pounds body weight.

    I honestly think body weight exercises, running and plyometrics are the way to go.

    -Dima

    And if that worked for everyone the armed services would be chock full of pressing studs.

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    Found out through an MRI that I have a mucoid degeneration on my lateral meniscus. I remember the exact day and time that I messed my knee up. No trauma or anything, just doing sprints on the track. That was 13.5 months ago.

    My knee has good and bad days, but the good outweigh the bad these days. I went from not being able to bend my knee, for months to having days where I completely forget I have a bum knee.

    One thing I've found is that by running on my toes, versus heel striking as I used to, my knee doesn't hurt at all or get swollen the next day, vs a few months ago, I'd go on a 2mi run, and my knee would ballon up. Also, I've gone back to sprints and speed workouts. I went through phases, the first few months, my knee didn't work at all, the slightest movement would make it pop, and swell up and hurt for days. A few months after that, I'd have a normal day followed by a bad day. Then I could have multiple excellent days, but if I PT'd the next day would be ****. Now, I can PT and be fine, but sometimes some movements will get that pop and my knee will hurt, like a few days ago, I was torquing my knee doint the breast stroke kick the pool.

    I can't find much online about this, so does anybody here know anything about this? I saw a PA about my MRI cause the doc was busy and I was moving out of town the next day. He told me it would never heal, only get worse, but over the past year its improvement has been amazing.

    I dunno... anybody? Tips, anything.

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    Toe striking is somewhat difficult to grasp "naturally". I run on the toes (or to be honest the forefoot) and you last longer with less effort. But there's a hidden price you pay. Your back and pelvis area suffer a bit more as the strike hits around that area as opposed to the rotulian area when running on your heel. Needless to say you run more effectievely on the "toes". Oh and about your issue. If doctors were always right I'd most probably never have been a father. Btw...are you "lighter"/fitter?

    Dima: yes and no. Lifting is a shortcut compared to your basic calisthenics wich would lead to a "more natural" development. But you can't avoid it. Squating, bench pressing etc are needed for a complete enabling of your potential. However as all short cuts they can induce or worsen wounds.

    280 lbs for 158.

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    Im having to try and smash our 100 overhand pull ups a day now to prep for the Legion as they do all there pull ups overhand! Running is good got to climb a sodding rope i hate doing that ****e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    Toe striking is somewhat difficult to grasp "naturally". I run on the toes (or to be honest the forefoot) and you last longer with less effort. But there's a hidden price you pay. Your back and pelvis area suffer a bit more as the strike hits around that area as opposed to the rotulian area when running on your heel. Needless to say you run more effectievely on the "toes". Oh and about your issue. If doctors were always right I'd most probably never have been a father. Btw...are you "lighter"/fitter?

    Dima: yes and no. Lifting is a shortcut compared to your basic calisthenics wich would lead to a "more natural" development. But you can't avoid it. Squating, bench pressing etc are needed for a complete enabling of your potential. However as all short cuts they can induce or worsen wounds.

    280 lbs for 158.

    I'm 5'7" 155, fit. And I see what you're saying as far the toe striking, and your right, its more my forefoot area. I got the idea while talking with a colleague who is using those toe shoes. They are those rubber soles with 5 toes that are for barefoot running.

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    sucks for me i havent jogg in less than a week due to pains on my right leg ankle and pain feeling on my shin on my left leg....

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    Quote Originally Posted by usm2b View Post
    I'm 5'7" 155, fit. And I see what you're saying as far the toe striking, and your right, its more my forefoot area. I got the idea while talking with a colleague who is using those toe shoes. They are those rubber soles with 5 toes that are for barefoot running.
    Newton shoes...yeah. Good shot. So if you're fit, it is not your weight that is making a difference. You're lucky my man. Enjoy.

    I was replying to dima I lift 280 at the bench for 158 lbs of bodymass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post

    I was replying to dima I lift 280 at the bench for 158 lbs of bodymass.
    I wouldn't have thought that was possible. Almost twice your weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacifist View Post
    I wouldn't have thought that was possible. Almost twice your weight?
    Hum...yeah and I'm almost 50.

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    Howzit guys...

    Finally starting the journey of fitness in my life, I'm still young, but I've never been in shape, and I have a horrible family history... So I think it's about time to start.

    Signing up for a gym this week, and going with two fit/buff friends.

    Any advice for the complete unfit person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBoy View Post
    Howzit guys...

    Finally starting the journey of fitness in my life, I'm still young, but I've never been in shape, and I have a horrible family history... So I think it's about time to start.

    Signing up for a gym this week, and going with two fit/buff friends.

    Any advice for the complete unfit person?
    Take it easy and build yourself up if your muckers are going for it(if they are fit) do not try and catch up you will most likely injure yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBoy View Post
    Howzit guys...

    Finally starting the journey of fitness in my life, I'm still young, but I've never been in shape, and I have a horrible family history... So I think it's about time to start.

    Signing up for a gym this week, and going with two fit/buff friends.

    Any advice for the complete unfit person?

    Start slowly and dont do to much weights in the begging ( especially at the first workout!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostBear View Post
    Thats a good weight to be benching.

    Personally i like weight training, i'm a thin dude and its really helped me to gain much better muscle definition, not to mention getting me to the stage where i can actually perform own body weight exercises to a comfortable degree. When i first started training there was many exercises i just didnt have the strength to do but now are no problem. Adding weights to own body weight exercises i've found helps loads too.

    Definetly a place for it.
    I can definitely see the advantage if you want to gain mass. And adding weight to chin ups, stairs, dips etc in my opinion is better than pushing weights - I would choose body weight stuff over weightlifting any day.

    -Dima

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