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Help with an Optics recommend?
Hi all! This is my first post and after looking at a number of other posts on this site it appears this is a great community to deal with.
With that in mind, I'm hoping to get some educated opinions with regards to optics for my Springfield Socom II. I know that some here (and other forums) aren't crazy about the Socom II's 16" barrel or the Quad-Rail system, but these are the reasons I bought it. Where I live I'll never be able to master the super-long range shots that the longer-barrel Springfield M1A rifles can deliver and I love the ability to add accessories to this one.
I avoided the model with the extended rail because I had heard from several sources that it can sometimes be a problem for the ejected shells. I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick with a 1 or maybe even as much as a 2 power red-dot optic such as an ACOG or something similar.
I haven't ruled out something that's more of a traditional scope with more magnification and I know there are some rail adapters that will help me do this.
Most of my shooting experience is hand-guns or non-scoped rifles. I don't have a huge budget for the optics so when I see low-priced ones I'm tempted, but I don't want to waste the ca$h at all if it's a POS. Basically I'm like the family that waaaay overspent on the house and as a result can only afford inflatable pool floats for furniture. The gun was a little more than I wanted to spend, but with Springfied's reputation, I figured it was $ well spent.
Any solutions that any of you can offer will be appreciated. Also let me know if this is the best area of the forum to ask this or if it should be moved to another area.
I'll be checking this one all day!
get a eotech and be done with it.
Which model would you recommend?
I'm no optics expert, but it really depends on what you want to use your rifle for. When you say you can't take super long range shots, how far do you shoot to? 2-300m?
I would recommend going to a store and playing with a aimpoint comp ml2 (~$400 no mount) and a eotech 511, 512(~$380) to see what works for you. Both of these are pretty much the same as they're mil counterparts except without NV settings. Personally I prefer the aimpoint, but thats what I got used to.
I prefer EOTech...some people have problems with the EOTechs "reticle" though.
Actually, Springfield also recommended AIMPOINT so I called them up. I spoke with a very knowledgeable man named John that gave me a bunch of information about their ml2 and ml3 so I'm kind of leaning towards those now.Originally Posted by jimmyboots
To answer HYDRO's question, I will more than likely never have an opportunity to go more than 300 yards and even then only on a rare occasion. Will a complete lack of magnification allow me to do that? From what I'm told, even with only a 16" barrel this gun is capable of 600yards.
So I guess I want my cake and eat it too. I'd like the ability to get instant target acquisition (as with any red-dot style scope) but also get the range that you can get with a magnified scope. My contact at AIMPOINT said that if I go with an ML3 for now and later on I can put a 3x magnifier on it later that may do the trick for me. Apparently there's a mount that goes where the 'stripper clip' guide is on the M1A rifles and that could mount a traditional rifle scope or the 3x magnifier. I'm just a bit torn on what to do and there's only so much $ that my wife will let me spend on this. And I'll remind her of that when zombies are marching towards our house and because I skimped on the optics I can't shoot them all in enough time!!!
Why not a illumnated variable powered scope? Theres a few choices that are 1-4x, like trijicons accupoint, schmidt & benders short dot, meoptas scope and a couple of new entries from GRSC, and Milletts new DMS 1-4x24 for around $250. I would definitely take a hard look at Milletts if I were i the market for a scope.
Go with an IOR, you won't be sorry.........
The Millett is very attractive to me as far as price (found online waay less than $250). But at the same time, I'm not real familiar with their reputation. Obviously there's the big names with the big price tags, and I don't think you always have to spend more for a good product, but finding the DMS online for less than $200, is it considered a budget scope? Along the lines of a TASCO?
Has anyone here used MILLETT?
I bet I would be happy. I just checked out the 1.1-4x26 CRT by IOR and man, $995..... Out of my price range. That's what's going to make this difficult. If it's too low in price, I start doubting the product. If it's too high in price, I automatically assume it's a better product, and then wish it was cheaper so I could buy it.
LOL....I am going to have to research this for a good long time before I can make a decision. Hopefully then I can afford the higher end stuff I want.
No **** get an Eotech best bang for the buck, and it works better then an ACOG. I have one on my Ar-15
I hope this helps
Just been issued with an Aimpoint M4, runs on AAs, comes with it's own mount, and great bit of kit. Regarding Eotech's, thought there was trouble/failure with the reticle these days in sh**y conditions?? anyway, get what you can afford and happy with.
If you've got the money.
Zenith 1.5–6 x 42
Perhaps our most versatile scope. Excellent for close-range hunting on large game, while its 6x upper limit allows precise bullet placement at all but the longest distances. A large objective lens provides outstanding low-light performance, and a large field of view makes it highly efficient for driven game, stalking, and high seat or stand hunting.
Personally, I prefer the open sights on my M1a, but I've only got half a week's paycheck to go until I can invest in another S&B.
Interesting. Do you have any links about the Eotech failures? I'm really starting to lean towards the aimpoints. I guess they're the only ones that are 'parallax-free'. I understand that the seals are using aimpoints.
I was looking at this one:
http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetac...tail.bok?no=20
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