Reply With QuoteLemme guess, you're gay and are concerned about possible repurcussions should your higher command find out?
Am I right?
Liberals
I have quite a few friends in the military at this time, and the majority of them, like me, are leftist loving liberals. One of them is even a ranger and just got back from a three month tour in Afghanistan.
The thing that gets me is that alot of them tell me about how they get made fun of over their liberal ideals by their fellow soldiers. Now I'm not saying they get all that offended or anything over that fact, but it seems that most people in the military expect you to have a conservative mind-set, which ironically is also expected by some on the extreme-left.
For example, I want to join the national guard next summer between semesters, and on a visit to my recruiters office last week there was a protest outside on the sidewalk. Whenever I went in, it kinda hurt to hear the recruiters/some other people there talk about how they thought the police should beat/take away all the protestors. Then I got some real dirty looks when I mentioned some of those kids were my friends, and how it wasnt only the soldier that gave us our rights and freedoms, but also the activist that makes sure the government doesnt abuse/take away those rights from the average citizen.
I suppose this is a big pointless rant, but i just want to discuss why it seems that people who are for a society free of judgment based on ****** orientation, excersise their rights, and have some strong socio-economic ideas seem to get labeled as anti-american? I mean isnt that what our great republic is supposed to be about? democracy and freedom?
I have been lurking on these boards for a good year, and it seems that alot of the left leaning people around here get called communist/anti-american quite often. i mean, communists arent liberal, the constitution....now thats what i call liberal.
thanks if you read this.
Lemme guess, you're gay and are concerned about possible repurcussions should your higher command find out?
Am I right?
DOTW winner?Originally Posted by mudbunny
heh, no im not gay. but i do believe gays should be free to openly serve, hell the first american marine injured in iraq was a homo******.
however, i did expect this kind of reply. i guess its why i held off registering so long. thanks for catering to my expectations.
I was being dead serious when I made that remark, not flippant. I'm not passing judgment on you but if you were to enlist then you should be fully aware that you might encounter people who are not as accepting, should they find out or were you to tell them. What exactly were you expecting with that initial post? I'm curious.
welcome to mp.net spade. nevermind the neocons like mudbunny. i guess im a liberal too since i believe in equality and hate assholes like mud
You are new. Learn to take a joke.
LOL, dude, what in god's name are you ranting about? Take a valium err something.
I don't think what you discribe is particularly liberal or conservative. What makes a person liberal or conservative I think is mostly how the media portrays the two. People seem to be more single issue orientated, that does not define a person as a liberal or conservative necessarily.
Most people I know are pragmatic, regardless on how they might identify themselves as a liberal, conservative or ?? A term in they you in our state congress is "good R or good D", meaning a person regradless of party affilitation will do what is best for the state. Hardline party members are not respected so much.
A thinking liberal, IMHO, is better than a non thinking conservative, and a thinking conservative is better than a non thnking liberal. Also a person who actually cares for the benefit of all of society is better than one who does not, regardless of any labels. Having good honest different views is important for our society to progress and be better than it was.
Partisan politics does not serve the interest of the people, but that is our political reality.
BTW ignore mudbunny he is a dweeb.
well i was serious about not being gay, i dont even know how thats pertaining to the topic at hand.
Im aware that a good amount of the people i may end serving with, may not share my own political beliefs. but the thing i was trying to get across, is that theres this stigma that only the right wingers join the military, and that the leftest are commie pigs that hate the military. in reality plenty of those on the left want to serve their country, and have hope of making it better.
we dont believe the greatest threat is from the outside, but from within. rome didnt fall until it had killed itself from the inside out with corruption and fiscal problems.
Being accepted isn't the issue, it is tolerance. There are all sorts in the military. No one is accepted by everyone.
I was just being an a$$, welcome to the board.
it really worked mud, i was sure you were an asshole
Well, if Junior is looking for a "liberal" fraternity, chances are pretty good he AINT gonna find it in the military. Atleast not in the army or Marine Corps. I'm just trying to save him some time. You want an "open" society, go to college.
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