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    I was wondering how the roman made and mantained their armour and weapons. How did they make the leather chest plate that the officer wore. And standard steel armour worn by the other ranks ?

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    First hit looks like a good start......

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    From what I know the leather was hardened by boiling it in oil after it was shaped.

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    First off all, the Romans never had any leather chest-piece, nore leather cuirasses, this just a missunderstanding from when historians only had sculptures and paintings to study. This myth of leather armour has then been spread by Hollywood ever since. Archeological evidence show clearly that body armour from the different periods where of different forms of metal, chest plates from the punic wars were of bronse not leather, during ceasar chainmail was used, and later segmented iron armour was used parallel with chainmail.
    Some sites:
    http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/
    If your looking for litterature you can start out with the osprey series:
    http://www.ospreypublishing.com/list...iod.php/per=40
    Or Peter Connollys books about ancient warfare:
    http://www.amazon.com/Greece-Rome-Wa...7794400&sr=8-2
    or
    http://www.amazon.com/Legions-Recrea...7794484&sr=1-1

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    Jango, I built 7 complete sets of lorica sgmenta with some of my students. Mine was made out of 3mm cold steel. Heavy, but effective. We made everything else too: scutum, pilum, gladius, helmet, but they were made of wood or papermache. We tested the pilum against various targets ant became pretty good at hitting man-sized shapes at 20-30m, depending on the kid. The pilum were so lethal, I decided not to let the kids take them home. My armour still sits proudly in my class, awaiting the day civilisation collapses.

    Anyway, amost every template I made was derived from links on this site.

    http://www.larp.com/legioxx/

    Build everythng!

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    Hey, I throw stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siquq View Post
    Hey, I throw stuff.
    i love teachers who chuck stuff, one of my best friends in middle school constantly got shyte chucked at him to shut him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keveaton_05 View Post
    chalk is one thing but a chisel could have killed him
    chalk? pfft thats for nicce kids i'm talking about full nalgene bottles, though those usually missed, you can get a lot of power behind a white board marker though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keveaton_05 View Post
    chalk is one thing but a chisel could have killed him
    My old french teacher in school many years ago before they sent him to the loony bin, liked to throw desks at people and through windows. He scared me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keveaton_05 View Post
    chalk is one thing but a chisel could have killed him
    hahaha I had a mate that threw a compass back at a teacher and lodged it in the Blackboard...no prizes for guessing how long he lasted in the schooling system

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    That's why I need armour in the classroom.

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    3mm thick for lorica segmentata?? Insane... If I remember well they were made of steel or surface-hardened iron but with thickness of some 1,5 mm at average, whole set weight was at some 5,5kg.

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    www.by-the-sword.com

    My aunt and uncle are "medieval reenactors"?......still cant belive they bought a bobcat....thing played with my dog when it was a kitten.

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    I found some of the templates I gave my students. Of course, you can do a better job and use better materials than cardboard! I was able to download a fantastic template of all pieces of the lorica segmenta; I just had to enlarge the shapes on a photocopier before tracing them on metal.

    This is a sketch showing them how to put the pieces together. This is not the great template I downloaded from Legio XX



    This is how you could make simply an officers kit



    This is how you could kill your friend if you are not careful. We found theaded 1/4 inch rods for $1.00 at the hardware store. The completed pilum were able to punch through 1/4inch plywood at 15m (minus the wooden safety tip). They now hang on my classroom wall.



    This is how you could just bruise your friend.



    And this is how to stop your friend hurting you. The hardened boss is a formidable weapon in itself, we found.


    As you can see, I whipped this up for kids so they would actually finish a project, but maybe it will give you ideas.
    Last edited by siquq; 09-04-2007 at 01:47 AM. Reason: clarification

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