Reply With QuoteI just met Dr Sam Scheinberg of Sam Splint fame. What a great guy.
Has anyone used Celox? How does this compare to Quikclot and which do you prefer?
does anyone have pictures or info on current USMC and US Army Medics field equipment?
I just met Dr Sam Scheinberg of Sam Splint fame. What a great guy.
Has anyone used Celox? How does this compare to Quikclot and which do you prefer?
Has anyone ever received or given an IV line into the Jugular?
I read about it in another thread on another forum that during a training ( Dont think it was actually a EMT or MIL clas, it was a private one) , they were taught this. The members of course had to receive and give one.
I think I would most likely **** my pants at the thought of someone IVing my jug. I mean in a training environment.
Anybody have any experience with this kind of stuff?
I have not ,,yet. My neighbor who was a young 18 Delta from Grp. was on a cert. ride in the Bronx, they p/u a Pt. with Mass. Hemor. ,AO1, blah-blah, did a Jug. IV. the other Medic & EMT were blown away. When they arrived @ receiving facility the Doc. asked ALOT of FAQs.
When you need fluids ,,fast,, and alot of it ,,quick,, and other areas are not accessible,, doing it in the jug may be the correct protocol.
Please consult your leading physician.
Last edited by Creeper; 04-29-2008 at 11:30 PM.
Out here, as far as I know we all got issued quick clot, isreali bandages, torniquets, etc. I picked up some extra medical supplies from my stores aswell.Originally Posted by Canadian Sig
TCCC dudes just get more of everything, plus the TCCC kit like chest decompression needles, etc
Hi,
I'm a medic in the NZ Army, with a bit of a problem sorting my kit.
I've got an issue medpack but it's huge, it's good for keeping everything in for doing things like range covers but when pack marching or patrolling it's a right pain.
What a number of people tend to do is strap it to the top of their ALICE packs. Unfortunately this is awkward to carry and ugly. It can be convenient to have all the kit ready at hand but most of the stuff in the pack doesn't need to be readily accessible.
What I'm looking at doing is putting all my meds in a pouch in my pack ie. all the oral analgesia, antiemetics, antibiotics etc.
From there I'll get the emergency drugs and put them in a pouch on the outside of my pack packed so I can get to them easily ie. adrenaline, naloxone, salbutamol etc.
And on my person I'll have a pouch/satchel/pack/bag with my trauma kit in it.
This way when pack marching I can cram the small bag inside my ALICE pack which keeps it out of the way (and my profile slightly smaller).
If patrolling I can simply have the trauma kit with me rather than carting round all my nebulous crap.
Unfortunately all the medpacks I've seen online are also huge - geared more for a mass-casualty situation rather than for being a platoon medic who sees more coughs and colds than bullet holes.
Any recommendations for this situation?
Cheers!
Hi, is there anyone still around on this forum? I am interested in the pros and cons for the field use of a tourniquet
they are awesome, not much bad about them as long as you dont leave it on for 6-8 hours.
i dont know a better way to say it
Try getting hold of a British PLCE med pack (DPM and same size as a PLCE bergan side pouch).
Thanks for that... I was in a "debate" with an ambulance officer who was totally against this and didn't believe that these even needed to be ever used. I tried to get some scenarios for him to accept, but his come back each time was that the toxin shock (I think) was a larger killer than just treating the wound. i.e. compress, bandage and elevate above the heart.
Cheers
By the way, not wanting to start a war of pros or cons, more just interested on the ways of use and when would be used.
Cheers
the new way of treatment being taught to U.S soldiers and if i remember right our cunuck neighbors is called TCCC (Tactical Combat Casualty Care) and it puts first action protocol for bleeding woundes, ie gunshot woundes and serious shrapnel woundes.
the old CLS method overstated the dangers of using a tourniquet, even if it is left on to long it seen to be a better scenario to lose a limb then to have your casualty bleed out.
you get one on a casualty quickly you seriously increase his survival rate, you have to remember though that the environment that he works in and the one we do have different variables thus certain differences in technique.
Hi medics! What do you think i should carry in my EDC pack?
What stuff is important?
Sorry CLS (I hate acronyms ;o)
I used the point above in my discussion, but the come back was that the body goes into shock in a situation like this and one of the natural results of shock is that the arteries contract, i.e. close off the bleed. I would assume not stop the bleed altogether though. As yet I have not been in such a situation, so I can only go on those who have experienced this..
Again he pushed the toxin point. I believe that there was a victim in China (with the quakes) that was crushed and when they released the crushed debris off him, he died as the toxins surged through his body. According to others who saw the item on the news, the victim was talking fine, even though being crushed.
Naturally my next question how would you overcome this. His answer was very slowly. use fluids to fight the toxins and release the debris slowly. Naturally this isn't a firefight and there is no added stress of being shot. Although he did also say that in some instances there is nothing they can do for a crushed victim, as the release will kill instantly and so they just give pain killers and talk to them until the inevitable happens.
By the way, if anyone is reading that this has happened to or they have experienced, I mean no disrespect in those situations.
I am asking to understand more.
Cheers
CLS = combat life saver
keep in mind i am not a medic, i only base what i say off of what i was taught for immediate treatment until the casualty could reach the next line of treatment. i have seen casualties crushed under rubble and have never heard of the toxins statement, with the treatment we gave on scene i do not know the result of who lived or died and how. shock does not always set in, and hypervolume shock or something similar to that name is caused by loss of blood so if you can prevent the loss of blood you have a better chance of avoiding shock.
remember though this is info coming from a dumb grunt so dont put complete trust in it
Thanks, it's all very interesting for me...CLS = combat life saver
keep in mind i am not a medic, i only base what i say off of what i was taught for immediate treatment until the casualty could reach the next line of treatment. i have seen casualties crushed under rubble and have never heard of the toxins statement, with the treatment we gave on scene i do not know the result of who lived or died and how. shock does not always set in, and hypervolume shock or something similar to that name is caused by loss of blood so if you can prevent the loss of blood you have a better chance of avoiding shock.
remember though this is info coming from a dumb grunt so dont put complete trust in it
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