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    Looks like some tasty deer there James, nice job.

    There's a Cabellas store opening up in Lacey, down south in a week or two. I'm excited, hopefully they have some good deals.

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    Apology to those who may felt offended by my comment, was my bad attempt at being humorous.

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    Last week we had a discussion in my political philosophy course about hunting exotic animals. I propose The Chair for poaching and killing the already scarce elephant and other animal populations for self amusement. for every $10,000 payed for elephant heads, homes and bank accounts should be seized for animal conservation. and no I'm not a crazy tree hugger.
    ? That strikes me as quite frankly, misinformed. "Backwoodshunter" is right. Not to sound pompous of offensive, but anybody with the faintest idea of modern conservation and (especially African) wildlife management knows that, when it comes to the big five, commercial safaris are the conditio sine qua non for preserving healthy populations and preventing poaching/snaring- if only for economic reasons.
    The elephant population in Botswana (just to quote the most prominent example) is actually everything but scarce and constitutes a major threat to indigenous agriculture-which, mind you, is still an existential mainstay in many regions and therefore almost compels the locals to take to poaching, in addition of course, to the continuing lucrativity of ivory trade. Same in Congo and Tanzania, by the way. Commercial, guided hunting is simply the most pragmatic and mutually beneficial avenue to approach this problem, both from an economic and conservational point of view.

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    I think theres two kinds of recreational hunters/fishermen. There are those who want to bag everything in sight and to hell with tomorrow and those who want to keep stocks and the environment going so that they can come back forever.
    I'd like to think that most of us are the latter. There are instances where animals have to be culled due to numbers being too high or they have become a nuisance and thats a sad and necessary evil. Commercial exploitation of a properly managed resource can be of benefit to the locals and the environment. I am told that in some places in Africa, the local village charges for the right to shoot a game animal in their neighbourhood. The hunter gets the trophy, they get the money, meat and hides. Being canny folks, they look upon the animals as serious investment and actually take a far more long term view than one might expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IraGlacialis View Post
    Well, anybody who has taste knows that unless you want a nice head on the wall, the doe is the better choice (population control and better meat).
    In the places I was hunting, the law dictated that I shoot only a buck. In the case of the one I got, he had to have a minimum of 3 points on one side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Were you able to keep it?

    I have absolutely zero experience with deep sea fishing. Almost all of mine is flyfishing for salmon and trout a la "A River Runs Through It".
    I always practice tag and release,but every now and again one dies on you .
    I donated it to a kids home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    In the places I was hunting, the law dictated that I shoot only a buck. In the case of the one I got, he had to have a minimum of 3 points on one side.
    Here it is sort of the other way around. The only deer seasons where bucks can be bagged are archery, muzzleloader, and November rifle season. Urban, antlerless (duh), youth, and antlerless archery season are doe only (and they can taken in the former three seasons as well).

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    I shoot off the older deer of our herd, to keep the numbers down and keep them healthy. I usually, USUALLY, don't shoot does unless we just have an overabundance of does that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronnieraygun View Post
    Way outside of where I spent time in Idaho. I think there's even a guy on this forum whose handle is Henry's Fork! Those are some beautiful fish, man.
    My home away from home.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
    Thanks. The lodge we were staying in was actually a stones throw away from the Henry's Fork and about an hour from the South Fork.
    Nice Brownie there Duke. If you ever need a guide, drop me a PM, i know almost every inch of the Henry's and the surrounding rivers. My family would spend winters skiing at Sun Valley, then every other spring living in Last Chance for 2 weeks.

    Half of the time you dont even need to go anywhere but across the highway from the lodge to catch some huge lunker Bows. Its almost not fair fishing in that part of the country, i never understood how people can get stumped with nothing after a whole day on the river. Makes fishing in Commifornia look like work. (Silver Creek aside, that place makes you work for every strike.)

    Did you get a chance to float the Box Canyon?

    Fo0k i could talk fly fishing all day long. Going to have to scan some pics to prove its not all fish stories...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shorty View Post
    I shoot off the older deer of our herd, to keep the numbers down and keep them healthy. I usually, USUALLY, don't shoot does unless we just have an overabundance of does that year.
    Likewise, though I usually don't barrel over any of the older stags unless their in a bad way. The older the stag, the longer he's had to fight to survive, both against hunters and fighting when the does go into estrus. Older stags have good genes. It's the young scraggly ones you've got to look for, the ones with a poor cape and build, and those with deformed antler growth, Which is quite important in maintaining a healthy trophy quota for the next few years.

    In fact, I shot a few piss poor examples a month ago, scraggly little buggers with small, twisted tines and squashed palms.

    Which brings me to my next point, The Discriminating Trophy Hunter. How often do any of you young fellas let a mediocre trophy pass you up, even though you've shot nothing for your whole trip? Do you shoot a decent rack, or do you leave him for a year to grow into a true trophy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillySing View Post
    Likewise, though I usually don't barrel over any of the older stags unless their in a bad way. The older the stag, the longer he's had to fight to survive, both against hunters and fighting when the does go into estrus. Older stags have good genes. It's the young scraggly ones you've got to look for, the ones with a poor cape and build, and those with deformed antler growth, Which is quite important in maintaining a healthy trophy quota for the next few years.

    In fact, I shot a few piss poor examples a month ago, scraggly little buggers with small, twisted tines and squashed palms.

    Which brings me to my next point, The Discriminating Trophy Hunter. How often do any of you young fellas let a mediocre trophy pass you up, even though you've shot nothing for your whole trip? Do you shoot a decent rack, or do you leave him for a year to grow into a true trophy?
    Yea, exactly, you got my point. I look for the ones that aren't gonna do the rest of the herd any good after this year. Usually the ones that are old and only have 8 points and below get scragged, just to keep the herd and the genes healthy.

    I've let SEVERAL nice looking 8 points pass me up for a trophy rack, or hope thereof. I know of several times I've been stalking a monster all year to have him seemingly disappear once season is in. Also the smaller 8 points that I leave alone to mature always just *happen* to cross the river to the yahoo's on the other side. They don't care, they just see a rack and shoot at it. Pisses me right off....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shorty View Post

    I've let SEVERAL nice looking 8 points pass me up for a trophy rack, or hope thereof. I know of several times I've been stalking a monster all year to have him seemingly disappear once season is in. Also the smaller 8 points that I leave alone to mature always just *happen* to cross the river to the yahoo's on the other side. They don't care, they just see a rack and shoot at it. Pisses me right off....
    I'm with ya there mate. Last year I passed up this magnificent young fallow buck. Beautiful symmetrical palms, all brow/trez/guard tines intact, a deep menil cape beginning to develop a mane, good strong musculature. It was a gem of a trophy in the eyes of the novice / unwise. I knew he'd become the stag of legends in another year. So I left him........I had my reticle straight on him at 400, 150 grain TSX ready to go. But I exercised some restraint, and guess what?

    About three weeks later, I got the latest issue of Wild Deer Magazine, only to see the awesome fallow in the hands of some bloody tattooed wharfie tosser, who hadn't even caped it out properly!! That made me maddddddddddddd............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry's Fork View Post

    Did you get a chance to float the Box Canyon?
    Sure did. We went on two runs in one day. I got a few but nowhere near as good as the South Fork. It was on a Sunday so we had to compete with all the rafters and inner tubers. It seems they don't have any respect for the fisherman and I was tempted to snag a few of them with the largest fly in my box. Next time I head up that way I'm hoping to try down stream further.

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    an excellent idea for a stick

    I went out on monday, we got a buck and a doe, pics pending

    but since my tag is still unfilled, I decided to invest into more archery training, here is a pic of my new instructor


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    Um where can I sign up for archery classes?

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