Police Weapons of the World

[Luckystiff]

Yes I am being harsh. He keeps talking out his ass.

Revolvers have a rep for being more reliable than auto pistols when in reality modern autos are more reliable, more accurate and easier to reload. Back in the early part of the last century the auto was hampered by poor and inconsistent ammo. That is not the case today and as such the auto has come into its own.

I know of only one incident where one of my guys gun failed during a shooting. It was approx. 15 years ago when we could carry anything we wanted. I had a Sgt. carrying a S&W model 686 .357 mag. He went to a call of a man chasing a woman around a house with a large knife. He arrives and the bad guy comes at him with the knife. He draws and fires one round striking the subject in the shoulder. The subject stops, looks at his shoulder and then looks back at the Sgt. and starts toward him again with the knife. The Sgt. try’s to fire a second round but the revolver is locked up. He bluffs the bad guy into giving up. When I inspected the revolver I found that the ejector had backed out and had locked up the cylinder. Malfunctions can happen to any piece of machinery. At this point in history revolvers have absolutely no advantages over the auto pistol.

[BiZ]

and i assume biz u r some high speed individual are you?

I appologise if I sounded harsh 3RAR, but you us a namesake for a unit in which you do not serve, one that I have spent time with, and talk about VicPol as if they are the best Police Force going around, which they ceratinly are not, nor are VicPol SOG the premier PTG in Australia, although they claim to be.

As for 'high speed', my letterbox is higher speed than most here..... and the whole term "high speed" is dodgy anyway.... what ****head would ever refer to themselves (without laughing) as being "high speed".... yanks I can understand....but no-one else.

[catalyst]

this F88 looks pretty black 2 me.



most SOG personal equipment is purchased privately from a firm called platypus outdoors.
Went in a few weeks ago and saw the head of SOG talking wif the owner.
www.platypusoutdoors.com.au

[Smintjes]

Belgian State Security ("Staatsveiligheid" or "Sûreté de l'état") (intelligence and VIP Close Protection):

Intelligence: Jericho 941 (decocker) and older agents are allowed to keep their S&W .38's.

Surveillance units: Jericho 941, soon to be replaced by Glock 26

Close Protection Unit: Glock 17, Steyr AUG 9mm, FN P90

[Michael RVR]

Training time aside, is there any advantage in using a 9mm AUG as opposed to something thats designed for the purpose, say an MP-5 ?

I suppose being locally made also makes an impact, but is that all it is?

[Gringo]

Training time aside, is there any advantage in using a 9mm AUG as opposed to something thats designed for the purpose, say an MP-5 ?

Well the 9mm AUG would have the similar advantages in which a bullpup has over a convetional rifle. The 9mm AUG would have a longer barrel, and shorter overall.

[BiZ]

this F88 looks pretty black 2 me.



most SOG personal equipment is purchased privately from a firm called platypus outdoors.
Went in a few weeks ago and saw the head of SOG talking wif the owner.
www.platypusoutdoors.com.au

To those other who may have been reffering to this pic, they are not 9mm AUGs, they are 5.56mm.

For 3RAR, the first officer's AUG is stock standard OG mate. Check the full size photos from that exercise.

[ArtofPain]

About Russian MVD (police) forces:
most of personnel have PM (Makarov) or PMM (Makarov modified) pistols.
There are also small amount of RG-92 revolvers and
APS and PSM pistols.
I'll try to place pics here.
http://www.world.guns.ru/handguns/hg23-e.htm
http://www.world.guns.ru/handguns/hg22-e.htm

[Mandinga]

Hi!. News from LatinAmerica.
Uruguayan Police are using S&W .38 Sp. 4" barrel revolvers, but are being slowly replaced by HK USP pistols. First the officers and sergeants. Some Glock 17 with 15 bullets magazines are in use too, but in reduced number. I suppose they are from a evaluation pack.
At middles 90' begin a "police update program", were buyed kevlar vests, new vehicles, and, however new weapons and accesories. To this point the police weapons used to be:

- SMG Star Z63, 9mm. Spain
- SMG HK MP5 A1/A2, 9mm. Semi-Full Auto selector. (only special groups)
- Revolver S&W .38Sp 4" and 6" barrel (2" for intelligency and other undercovers)
- Revolver Taurus (model unknown) .38Sp reinforced 4" barrel. Brazil
- Pistol Browning HP, 9mm single action, Argentina (only officers and sergeants)
- Pistol Star M30, 9mm, 15 shot, double action, Spain (only special groups)
- Shotgun, Remington 870, 4 shot tubular magazine
- Sniper, Remington 700, 7,62x51mm
- Sniper, SIG 970, 7,62x51mm

Some of these "wonders" still in use, but the SMG Star Z63 has been replaced totally by the HK MP5 A3/A4 with fire selector Safe-Single-2 Shot Burst-Auto. There exist 3 HK MP5 SD3 in the special groups, some MP5 K, and a reduced number of PSG1 sniper rifle. All the officers and sergeants have received the pistols USP or Glock17, and their former pistols are being distributed between the "troop". The undercover sections (intelligency, investigations, etc.) have some freedom for choice, but are using IMI Jericho or HK compact pistols in undetermined number. The special groups have received some SIG 552-553 for bank convoy's escort.

[Micke]

In New Zealand the Police use manly Glock 17 Pistols. And Mp5 and Colt M4A1 carabines.

Most cops I've seen have had Sig Sauer P226 pistols, just like the army.
And they use Diemaco C8s, not M4s. I saw one tactical pig on the news that had a C8CT. (CT= Custom Tactical. I think thats what it stands for) Dunno if these have been limited to only semi-automatic or not but usually the cop's guns are for some reason.
And also I've seen snipers with what looked like Accuracy Int AWs.

But they're still just cops no matter what weapons they have.

[Micke]

I saw on the news before when they took that record ****en huge cannabis plantation in Australia the cops raiding it wore auscam and were armed with M16A1s. And this was from early this year.
Was the M16 used cause it was a rather open area? Or are the poor guys just poorly equipped?

[BiZ]

I saw on the news before when they took that record f*** huge cannabis plantation in Australia the cops raiding it wore auscam and were armed with M16A1s. And this was from early this year.
Was the M16 used cause it was a rather open area? Or are the poor guys just poorly equipped?

What state are you reffering to champ?

If you're reffering to the one out west of NSW earleier this year the SPG weren't using M16A1's...... that I can certainly gurantee. None in the armoury being one reason.....
SPSU teams will use M16A2's for longer range open work such as bush insertions etc.