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eurocanards power !
(Laage airbase, Germany)
training or exercise ? does somebody have any info ?
mat.
You wrote:
dozerf22, a contributor over at the Fence Check forum, an actual Raptor's pilot, a public face for the aircraft having been part of the initial operational testing of the fighter and a senior officer who's was involved with the Raptor's deployment in Alaska stated several times when asked about this particular: there was no such mock engagements between the two aircrafts, period.
Your "dozerf22" wrote:
"I have never flown with the Typhoon and I'm not aware of such a test or encounter, but of course that doesn't mean it didn't happen. "
Is this the part where he says that an encounter did never happen?
Nothing new here..
I say we should move ahead and wait until something official is said.
Last edited by Herman the II; 01-27-2008 at 08:34 AM.
pix taken on a french forum :
eurocanards power !
(Laage airbase, Germany)
training or exercise ? does somebody have any info ?
mat.
These jets are so sexy...
Interesting picture, shows how similar those jets are.
The Ef Typhoon looks a bit more elegant IMO.
Do you have the date when that picture was taken?
Laage is home to Jagdgeschwader 73 "Steinhoff", which is operating the Ef Typhoon.
Just a guess:
Most likely that photo was taken 2006 at the 50 years anniversary celebration. On that date more than 40 jets from all nations were guests at Laage. Some jets of the French Air force were also present, no other fitting occasions comes to my mind. As said, the date of the picture or the number of the Ef would be helpful.
picture taken last wednesday (01/23/2008)
it shows Rafale B324 escorted by a Eurofighter (from JG 73, as you said Herman)
i would like to see a photo with Eurofighter, Grippen and Rafale flying together..
mat.
Oh, then my guess was definitely rubbish...Originally Posted by Mat_fr
The official homepage of the JG 73 doesn't mention any exercises, neither does the official Luftwaffe homepage. As soon as I find out more I will post it here.
Agreed....but the unit costs for Tranche3 aircraft will prolly be up there in the F-22 bracket."The cost of developing the military jet has increased due to certain "systems" and other modernisation, Focus said."
If there will be a cost increase its only for the Tranche3 Ef Typhoons, such an increase has little to do with corruption etc.. Its likely that the offer for the Tranche3 jets will include AESA Radars and TVC etc. , so its only natural that the costs go up.
I would wait until the offer for the Tranche3 jets is official, then we can see what updates are included.
I'm quite sure that the Tranche3 jets will cost more, but the German newspaper "Focus" isn't really reliable when it comes down to military subjects.(Once they reported that the new A400m is able to tow other planes in the air whilst showing a picture of an A400m refueling two other planes in flight.)
So lets wait and see until an offical statement is immanent..
Maximum speed
I know its more a theoretical question but:
Whats the maximum speed of the Eurofighter at altitude?
The homepage of the German Luftwaffe states a maximum speed of over mach 2(http://www.luftwaffe.de/portal/a/luf...%2Fcontent.jsp)
whilst the homepage of the Austrian airforce claims a maximum speed of 2.495 km/h at 10.975 m. (http://www.bmlv.gv.at/waffen/waf_eurofighter.shtml)
The RAF says 2 Mach(http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/typhooneurofighter.cfm)
and Wiki (I know its Wiki but..) claims 2,120 km/h.
Whats right? Mach 2, 2.5 or something different?
Or is there another factor in the evaluation that I'm missing?
(peacetime restrictions etc.)
Don't know exactly - nor should I - but it's fairly safe to say it's a Mach 2+ jet but how much more is just speculation. You're right that there's restrictions on these things and a top speed is going to be classified.
(The MIG-25 could reportedly reach over Mach 3 for short periods but had to go in for extensive engine overhauls afterwards that it wouldn't have been practical for anything short of highly specialized missions)
This document from Italy's AF name a Mach 1.7 restriction on their Typhoon flights but also lists the top speed of the A/C at Mach 2.0.
source
Yeah you can't say Eurocanards without the Swedes being present....Don't know about this exercise but Exercise Sky Lance recently at Lossiemouth in Scotland had both Typhoons and Rafales participatingpix taken on a french forum :
eurocanards power !
(Laage airbase, Germany)
training or exercise ? does somebody have any info ?
mat.
Sorry for the double post, only just noticed Seiyuuki's comment.....
"crystal ball"
How many more times, I was reporting on an article I'd read, that was all, if American members want to take umbridge with that that's your prerogative, but all it was, was an article.
And so you keep saying F-22 pilot blah, blah, as ex-airforce myself I've met enough pilots to know you don't take everything they'd say as gospel, there are numerous exercises where events/results whether planned or not are not reported for operational reasons, but that's the whole point of exercises to refine your systems/equipment, there're no negatives as long as lessons get learnt
so as Herman said lets move on...
Eurofighter prototype DA1
Eurofighter prototype DA1:
The very first prototype of the Eurofighert Typhoon. DA1 (Development Aircraft 1) made over 578 successful test flight at the EADS side in Manching (Germany). The aircraft was decommissioned 2004 and is accessible to the public at the "Flugwerft Shleißheim" a part of the German Museum in Munich. Pictures taken by myself. c
Nice exhibition in Schleißheim, the DA1 looks a bit like cardboard cutout up close. But I prefer the german VTOLs from the 60´s... one can se a glimpse in the left background of the 2nd pic.
Second Tranche of ASTA Programme Launched
Full story:Second Tranche of ASTA Programme Launched
31 January 2008
Hallbergmoos - Following signature of the Aircrew Synthetic Training Aids (ASTA) Supplement 5 agreement between Eurofighter GmbH and NETMA on 13 December 2007, today marks the formal launch of the contract. Supplement 5 of Procurement Contract 7 within the Integrated Logistics Support (ILS) framework represents Tranche 2 for the ASTA programme and is the enabler for the next batch of 15 ASTA devices to be delivered to the four partner Air Forces.
Extended Existing Locations
RAF Coningsby, UK: 1 Cockpit Trainer
Grosseto, Italy: 2 Full Mission Simulators
Morón or Albacete, Spain: 1 Full Mission Simulator and 1 Cockpit Trainer
New Locations
RAF Leuchars; UK: 2 Full Mission Simulators and 1 Cockpit Trainer
Neuburg, Germany: 1 Full Mission Simulator and 1 Cockpit Trainer
Noervenich, Germany: 1 Full Mission Simulator and 1 Cockpit Trainer
Wittmund, Germany: 1 Full Mission Simulator and 1 Cockpit Trainer
Gioia del Colle, Italy: 1 Full Mission Simulator
http://eurofighter.com/news/20080131_asta2.asp
Eurofighter Typhoon best for India's military needs: EADS
Full story:Eurofighter Typhoon best for India's military needs: EADS
NEW DELHI: Showcasing its Eurofighter Typhoon as a front runner for the IAF multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) order, European Defence and Aerospace Consortium (EADS) today said the jet fighter was best suited to meet India's tactical and strategic military requirements.
"We have received very positive feedback from major airforces as well as fighter pilots who have flown this aircraft," Benin said.
He said human-machine interface of the typhoon guarantees very easy handling qualities, which allows the pilot to concentrate on the mission at hand.
Benin said his company was expecting orders for these aircraft from Greece, Turkey, Switzerland and Japan.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/2789370.cms
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