Porsche competes with Acura and Infiniti? Sure thing bud.....Not to mention that Porsche as a company/brand isn't even on Ferraris level, they play below Ferraris cheapest model and are in Maserati territory, though even Maserati has announced that they won't stoop as low as Porsche and will price their products higher than Porsche, effectively leaving Porsche to be the bargain "luxury" brand for those looking to get bling, a badge and "status" on the cheap. 2/3 Porsche sales are VW/Audi based SUVs and their limousine, only 1/3 of their sales are sports cars. That will only worsen to 1/4 now that they slotted a rebadged Audi Q5 underneath the already very cheap Cayenne. Porsche now competes with Acura and Infiniti.
Lol dude, Mustangs were **** in the 80's and 90's and in no way compared to Beemers. The V6 put out 145 hp and the GT (V8 version) a paltry 215 in the 90s.There are many reasons Ferrari sells so well, and automagazine or youtube reviews are none of them. There's more to it than three or four dry numbers. It's the same way in the lower price range, or otherwise many cars and brands wouldn't be what they are because there are other cars that match 3-4 dry numbers in different metrics that are important to the kind of car, yet they still don't sell as well. Ford Mustangs in the 90s and 80s probably matched or beat BMW 3 in the important metrics, yet the BMW didn't cease to exist and outsold them. There are probably many sports cars that match the 911 numbers, yet it continued to sell and outlived those models. People make the wrong assumption that at the top it's only about a few numbers, because that's all they ever see or hear from those cars, because they haven't and probably will never drive them, so they make it all about the only things they know about them. It's understandable, but one has to be smarter than that, and realize that it's a fallacy.
And your whole argument falls flat based on the fact that Ferrari is the only premier car company to have whole teams devoted to their press cars with the sole purpose of eking out better numbers. So clearly for Ferrari it's become nothing but dry numbers, which is sad seeing as to how there's more to cars than dry numbers. They most of all should be aware of that, yet they are too frightened to put their products to the test, which is a shame seeing as they are some of the best cars around.
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So basically, people with money buy Ferrari's and porshe's mostly due to brand recognition, and many probably don't take the time and have the interest like us car nuts to watch and read all of the car reviews, they know a guy who has "X" model Ferrari, like it, and buy something similar.
They buy X car because it has a 0-60 of 1.1 seconds over the Y model when they will never actually take it past 5th gear.
Attention Subaru Forester Owners
need some tire suggestions, base tire size 16"???, all weather (Illinois)...60 miles/day commuter
spreadsheet not needed....this time.
Kumhos are great if you are on budget. Korean engines-that-could - as good as big name brands quality-wise but for 30% less. Been running 16" all seasons on my Camry for 2 years now, and the tread is still strong enough to drive in the winter. Quiet and handle very well.
Continentals if you are not on budget, but looking for quality bang for your buck. German, so enough said.
I know it's not all season, but with their ExtremeWinterContacts I can do 80km/h in Canadian snowstorms quite comfortably on fwd car with close to 300lb of tq. Next set I'm definitely switching out from all-season crappy Dunlops which came with the GTi to summer Contis.
Some car purn:
New R8 V10 Plus...
Dunlops are **** bro. Trust me here. I'm getting wheel slips on 4th gear shifts during aggressive acceleration on their supposedly sporty SP Sport AS 18" low profiles. People on forums reporting sidewall bubbles at as low as 4k.
Yokos tend to be soft. Fast wear and not good for winter.
That's the Kumhos i use btw: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....del=Solus+KR21
and see how much Firestone installers will charge (per Tire Rack dot com)
P215/65R16 Kumho Solus KR21 Blackwall $81/each =$324/four tires