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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    I got this Brand, Pagani or something in mind.
    Huayra...?

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    I meant to say Pagani, started JUST like Vencer...if not with worse overall suppliers.

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    Well, let's see if they are still around in a year or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tercio67 View Post
    Dare to be different, and drive something less common?
    I don't live in monaco. 200+ k Ferraris and Lambo's I don't see every day.

    I got this Brand, Pagani or something in mind.
    Tbh, I would never pick a Pagani over a Ferrari either, I'm just not a fan of the look. Altough they look better than this Vencer. But Pagani wasn't a compete unknown, he was a designer for lambo.

    But are you honestly saying if you had 260000€ to spare, you would pick this over an Aventador? Or a 458+Nissan GTR or a 458+a BMW 1M(just for fun). Not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spezz View Post
    I don't live in monaco. 200+ k Ferraris and Lambo's I don't see every day.


    Tbh, I would never pick a Pagani over a Ferrari either, I'm just not a fan of the look. Altough they look better than this Vencer. But Pagani wasn't a compete unknown, he was a designer for lambo.

    But are you honestly saying if you had 260000€ to spare, you would pick this over an Aventador? Or a 458+Nissan GTR or a 458+a BMW 1M(just for fun). Not me.

    IF? I could pay for three quarters of the Aventador+Tax and Insurance (check the pricing), probably the 458 and Fclub package +tax.


    Pagani was not a complete unknown? Yes as his Carbonfibre enterprise had some very dodgy products. Hence the initial Zonda was first tested with an Aluminum body. And it took 8 years for a test approval with a decent yet sketchy MB engine. And despite that he made it selling some outrageous models with even more outrageous price tags.

    Here at least I know the Dutch have a workmule of an engine (+a decent parts bin). On a side note the Apollo Gum(ball)pert comes to mind too, with a heavier price tag as well.

    Your selection is worth some 290K to 330K (tax+Ins included).

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    Default Aston Martin DB7/DB4 Zagato

    This is a rather unique motorcar, it gives the first impression of being an early ’60s DB4 Zagato but it’s actually based on a DB7 Vantage from the late ’90s. Coachbuilders Evanta stripped the donor DB7 down to almost nothing, shortened the wheelbase, added a race-spec roll-cage, hand-formed a new body from carbon and kevlar, then meticulously assembled it all into what you see before you. A sort of DB7/DB4 Zagato for the 21st century.
    I have to admit, I’m often a little hesitant when out comes to cars like this. There are very few coachbuilders like Evanta left in the world and if a lesser garage had taken on a project like this I feel that it would have been an unmitigated disaster. That said, it wasn’t and it isn’t, so happy days.
    The interior of the car is all made bespoke from hand cured oxblood red leather, the seats and door trims are works of art although I do think the steering wheel is a little out of place. The DB7 wheel was kept so as to maintain a driver-side airbag however personally, I would have ditched the stock wheel and found a lovely old wooden one. Airbags be damned.
    If you’ve got a few spare Euros kicking around, the car is due to hit the auction block at the Coys Monaco auction, click the link here for the official website or visit Evanta here.













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    So damn beautiful.
    Been driving DB7 some lately. Tis nice...


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    Auto-stick on a DB-X? Blasphemy.

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    Default 2014 Aston Martin DBS

    It might sport the word ‘Concept’ in its name, but the Aston Martin AM 310 is essentially a pre-production model of the new DBS due to go on sale worldwide early next year.
    The British luxury automaker headed to this year’s Concorso d’Eleganza out at Lake Como in Italy to unveil the AM 310 Concept, sporting stylish body lines that have been undoubtedly influenced by the One-77. The DBS replacement looks to be bolder and more aggressive, but only time will tell if Aston Martin tames it down before its production model release.
    One can expect a lot of carbon fiber however, and for now Aston Martin has revealed that the AM 310 is powered by a 6.0-liter V12. We recently spied the 2014 Aston Martin DBS out at the ‘Ring and we do know that it’ll have a V12 under the hood when it makes it into production.


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    Default Bmw zagato coupe concept unveiled

    BMW and Zagato have teamed up to create a new concept for the forthcoming Concorso d'Eleganza in Villa d'Este on the shores of Lake Como - the BMW Zagato Coupe.

    BMW and Zagato are keeping schtum about exactly what underpins the new concept, but if it's not based on a BMW Z4 we'll eat our virtual office hat. Especially since BMW and Zagato are saying that the concept is a fully road-legal runner.

    "It is relatively easy to build a design study which is not intended for use on the road. Not having to meet any stipulations governing crash safety or pedestrian protection opens up a host of new avenues in terms of design," says Andrea Zagato, boss of the family firm. "The challenge lies in injecting the emotional appeal of a concept car into a road-legal machine. And we think we have succeeded in doing just that with the BMW Zagato Coupé."

    The entirely handbuilt body's shape is a mix of distinct BMW design elements - twin circular headlamps, kidney grille - with classic Zagato touches such as the double-bubble (doppia gobba) roof (a design that apparently improves the car's aerodynamics and increases its structural rigidity as well as leaving more room inside for a helmet).

    Oddly, both companies claim the surface treatment as their own. "This sculptural and visually striking surface treatment is a Zagato hallmark," says the press release before, in the very next sentence, claiming that "the surface treatment, on the other hand, is clearly inspired by BMW." Make up your minds, boys and girls...

    Inside, Zagato has upgraded the driver-focused interior, adding horizontal lines in the instrument panel and doors to 'heighten the interior's sense of sporting elegance'. The base colours for the leather trim are a light and dark shade of grey, while red decorative stitching in the instrument panel, doors and seats brings the colour of the body into the interior. A 'Z' embroidered into the seats is the clearest reference in the interior to the origins of the BMW Zagato Coupé.

    The "horizontal line" design theme has also found its way into the luggage compartment, as have the two shades of grey and the red accents. Here, the lines are a subtle reference to the form of the double-bubble roof. Two exclusive accessories - a hat bag and a travel bag - are also available. The travel bag also recreates the form of the double-bubble roof and is designed to maintain its bulbous lines even when empty.

    There's no word as yet whether the BMW Zagato Coupe will make it to production, but it is at least more likely to go on sale than some of BMW's previous Villa d'Este concepts...













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    Quote Originally Posted by Spezz View Post
    Seriously who in his right mind would pay 265 000€ for an unknown, likely unreliable, history-less, pedigree-less Meh-looking "supercar" when you can buy a car from any of the big boys like ferrari, lambo, porsche, mclaren etc... with money left to spare.
    Every month you have atleast one or two cool hip renderings of some fantasy super-megacars coming up.

    It's standard in the industry. But even with alot of "off the shelf" parts + engine it takes alot of money AND dedication to ever get such a car on the road yet to actually sell it and actually making money with it.

    95% of these renderings/plans just die at that stage of being a rendering.

    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    On a side note the Apollo Gum(ball)pert comes to mind too, with a heavier price tag as well.
    Gumpert is also using alot of ready-to-use parts but still are having major problems with their cars.

    Buying one of their cars will be a real adventure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macs. View Post
    Every month you have atleast one or two cool hip renderings of some fantasy super-megacars coming up.

    It's standard in the industry. But even with alot of "off the shelf" parts + engine it takes alot of money AND dedication to ever get such a car on the road yet to actually sell it and actually making money with it.

    95% of these renderings/plans just die at that stage of being a rendering.



    Gumpert is also using alot of ready-to-use parts but still are having major problems with their cars.

    Buying one of their cars will be a real adventure.

    I agree with you. Simply, judging one coachbuilder/manufacturer by its lack of pedigree is never a good argument IMHO, AKAIK etc.

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    1997 Taurus SHO, good?

    Found some cheap Audi's






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