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    Quote Originally Posted by He219 View Post
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    Ha ha ha ha...I love how the same VW Beetle keeps hanging around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    Ha ha ha ha...I love how the same VW Beetle keeps hanging around.
    You know, I never understood why all the rednecks that lived around me drove the way they did..until I found out this is their favorite movie. It was good for the time period..definitely sped up in a few scenes. And TSC, I bet he could get by with a heavier duty clutch if he supercharged that V6..but in all honesty, i'm not trying to insult you d3ath but I think that you'd only be happy with that power for a-little while..then you're gonna' start getting bored with it then you face the decision if you should put more money into the V6 or swap in a V8. have you ever thought about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burntrubber87 View Post
    You know, I never understood why all the rednecks that lived around me drove the way they did..until I found out this is their favorite movie. It was good for the time period..definitely sped up in a few scenes. And TSC, I bet he could get by with a heavier duty clutch if he supercharged that V6..but in all honesty, i'm not trying to insult you d3ath but I think that you'd only be happy with that power for a-little while..then you're gonna' start getting bored with it then you face the decision if you should put more money into the V6 or swap in a V8. have you ever thought about it?
    I inclined to agree. Would it be cheaper to start with a V8 and modify that for more grunt? What is the V6 motor... is it an all alloy arrangement? Is it OHC? We don't have those in Australia.... we have 4litre SOHC or DOHC inline six cylinder motors. With our XR6 turbo motors around 700hp is easy enough to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burntrubber87 View Post
    You know, I never understood why all the rednecks that lived around me drove the way they did..until I found out this is their favorite movie. It was good for the time period..definitely sped up in a few scenes. And TSC, I bet he could get by with a heavier duty clutch if he supercharged that V6..but in all honesty, i'm not trying to insult you d3ath but I think that you'd only be happy with that power for a-little while..then you're gonna' start getting bored with it then you face the decision if you should put more money into the V6 or swap in a V8. have you ever thought about it?

    I think you misread it, I am buying a completely new car sometime next year, a Mach 1, which is a 4v 4.6. I was going to S/C my V6 before I found out some insurance/fuel economy information that inclined me to start saving for a new car. I'm not going to swap a motor into this car because insurance fraud would suck, and I want something a little newer. The ford 3.8 is a SOHC motor that's pretty much a copy of the buick 3.8, it can handle up to about 400rwhp on the stock bottom end and stock internals, and the 4R70W transmission (I have an automatic) can handle well up to 500rwhp and can be built to be pretty stout. The T-5 manual transmission probably needs a better clutch once you are in the 350rwhp area, but if anything the rear end would need to be beefed up or replaced before the transmission, these cars have 7.5" open differentials with 28spline axles, they get near the point of destruction at 350rwhp, launching the car on a stock differential with 320rwtq would probably blow it.

    But I'll say that for most people, it is absolutely not cheaper to start with a V8. A low mileage V6 can be had for under $6k, a single turbo setup runs about $3.5k (not including tune and gauge work), that, some good tires, a better rear differential and maybe some suspension work will make the V6 run high 12's without a problem. That and the plain fact that it's just appealing to give people the "wtf I just got raped by a V6 Mustang" feeling, why do you think people bother to mod Civics? Same concept. And there's always the argument "why get a V6 when you can just get a GT", Well I can say, "Why'd you get a GT when you could have got a Mach 1", then there's "Why'd you get a Mach 1 when you could have just got a Cobra", "Why'd you get a Cobra when you could have just got a Camaro SS" "Why'd you get a Camaro SS when you could have just got a Z06" Goes on and on, it's all about principal and circumstance.

    I like my car, to be honest if it got over 20mpg in the city, I'd probably just keep it and bring back my S/C idea, but it gets 17mpg and the insurance is outrageous ($200/mo no accidents, student discount, family's plan, etc). But I figure if I'm going to pay out the ass for insurance, and already get ****ty gas mileage, I may as well get one of my dream car's since it's affordable.

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    Progress on the STB, yanked out my CAI tubing so make it match



    Gonna put in the factory air assembly for a couple of days so I can make sure the clearcoat has time to cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3ath View Post
    The ford 3.8 is a SOHC motor that's pretty much a copy of the buick 3.8,
    That alone would be reason enough to be rid of it. Those buick V6 motors are everywhere here still - they are rough, noisy and the attract bogans with loud, droning exhausts.

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    Got a question. Im thinking about buying a new car. And after searching Im trying to figure out between two different ones ATM. A 1995 Nissan 240 and a 1991 Nissan 300ZX. The 300 has the VG30DE while the 240 only has the KA24DE. I know the 300 has more power in it. But does anybody know the reliability of the two cars and any basic performance specs or experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3ath View Post
    I think you misread it, I am buying a completely new car sometime next year, a Mach 1, which is a 4v 4.6. I was going to S/C my V6 before I found out some insurance/fuel economy information that inclined me to start saving for a new car. I'm not going to swap a motor into this car because insurance fraud would suck, and I want something a little newer. The ford 3.8 is a SOHC motor that's pretty much a copy of the buick 3.8, it can handle up to about 400rwhp on the stock bottom end and stock internals, and the 4R70W transmission (I have an automatic) can handle well up to 500rwhp and can be built to be pretty stout. The T-5 manual transmission probably needs a better clutch once you are in the 350rwhp area, but if anything the rear end would need to be beefed up or replaced before the transmission, these cars have 7.5" open differentials with 28spline axles, they get near the point of destruction at 350rwhp, launching the car on a stock differential with 320rwtq would probably blow it.

    But I'll say that for most people, it is absolutely not cheaper to start with a V8. A low mileage V6 can be had for under $6k, a single turbo setup runs about $3.5k (not including tune and gauge work), that, some good tires, a better rear differential and maybe some suspension work will make the V6 run high 12's without a problem. That and the plain fact that it's just appealing to give people the "wtf I just got raped by a V6 Mustang" feeling, why do you think people bother to mod Civics? Same concept. And there's always the argument "why get a V6 when you can just get a GT", Well I can say, "Why'd you get a GT when you could have got a Mach 1", then there's "Why'd you get a Mach 1 when you could have just got a Cobra", "Why'd you get a Cobra when you could have just got a Camaro SS" "Why'd you get a Camaro SS when you could have just got a Z06" Goes on and on, it's all about principal and circumstance.

    I like my car, to be honest if it got over 20mpg in the city, I'd probably just keep it and bring back my S/C idea, but it gets 17mpg and the insurance is outrageous ($200/mo no accidents, student discount, family's plan, etc). But I figure if I'm going to pay out the ass for insurance, and already get ****ty gas mileage, I may as well get one of my dream car's since it's affordable.
    I'm all for the idea of you getting a Mach 1, a friend of a friend of mine has a '03 Mach 1 with headers/ intake/ exhaust/ drag radials and 3.73s(I think, might be higher) and it flat out hauls ass for a N/A car with some bolt-ons. Low 13 second car. And wagon..gm 60 degree v6 sound= please shoot me in the face. I hate that sound so much..the only reason GN's are cool is because they are turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinney_bmx View Post
    Got a question. Im thinking about buying a new car. And after searching Im trying to figure out between two different ones ATM. A 1995 Nissan 240 and a 1991 Nissan 300ZX. The 300 has the VG30DE while the 240 only has the KA24DE. I know the 300 has more power in it. But does anybody know the reliability of the two cars and any basic performance specs or experience?
    If its a twin turbo 300ZX they are a royal PITA to work on, big motor stuffed into a small engine bay. I would go with the 240..they are generally reliable cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3ath View Post
    Progress on the STB, yanked out my CAI tubing so make it match


    Nice spoiler man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie the Great View Post
    Nice spoiler man!

    :O You may be on to something


    Quote Originally Posted by Burntrubber87 View Post
    I'm all for the idea of you getting a Mach 1, a friend of a friend of mine has a '03 Mach 1 with headers/ intake/ exhaust/ drag radials and 3.73s(I think, might be higher) and it flat out hauls ass for a N/A car with some bolt-ons. Low 13 second car. And wagon..gm 60 degree v6 sound= please shoot me in the face. I hate that sound so much..the only reason GN's are cool is because they are turbo.
    The 4 valve is a good mod motor, much more responsive than the SOHC 2v in the GTs. My exhaust doesn't sound bad, it gets a little droney around 1500rpm but it's mellow through the rest of the rpm band, and sounds great at idle. I'll get a vid of it in a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinney_bmx View Post
    Got a question. Im thinking about buying a new car. And after searching Im trying to figure out between two different ones ATM. A 1995 Nissan 240 and a 1991 Nissan 300ZX. The 300 has the VG30DE while the 240 only has the KA24DE. I know the 300 has more power in it. But does anybody know the reliability of the two cars and any basic performance specs or experience?
    Burntrubber is right on.

    FWIW, we did intake, headers, exhaust (stock mufflers), no cat's, and the N/A 90' 300ZX VG30DE Dyno'd 190WHP average. Here's our video, or at least part of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FzUE_JWA4

    I have a 1990 240SX, that's got the SOHC KA24E. The 240's engine bay fits nearly anything, and many swaps are done, everything from SR's to big CHevy V8's. If you're not in a state that basically makes an SR20DET illegal, I'd say go that route, as there's a huge aftermarket for it.

    If you're into projects, and have the money, skill, patience, the KA motors make more torque and more power than the SR when boosted.

    1995 is an S14, so you've got a slightly better balanced chassis than the S13 (tendency to understeer on S13, though I've not had much trouble).

    If you plan on keeping it stock, you can still run on fun roads just fine. I've kept up with Z33's downhill running a tight line with my basically-stock S13. It's not a fast car, so you have to make it fast. Good for learning on.

    I'll add more later. My computer keeps crashing.


    Anywho, what do you wanna use it for?

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