Knocking Down Doors

[Ravage]

See last post.

[JKinnaird]

That new type of 40mm round sounds really interesting.

[StukaJr]

Hmmm... I was under impression that it's safer and more efficient (and faster) to take down most doors with a sledgehammer, than with a 12 gauge breacher rounds - never mind about pieces of door becoming lethal projectiles flying into the residence. I understand that these are designs for the "warzone", but domestic enforcement agencies will want these too and in a hurry - never mind that Iraqis are people too and are starting to complain about their rights here and there.

I lived in a loft that had old steel and heavy wood doors with a center lock that extended to the sides like a vault mechanism - leaves a lot to be desired if in a case of mistaken identity, someone is setting up explosive charge to take it off the frame...

[orionhawk]

Hmmm... I was under impression that it's safer and more efficient (and faster) to take down most doors with a sledgehammer, than with a 12 gauge breacher rounds

The problem there (for USSOCOM) is that then you have one of your troops holding a hammer or ram instead of a gun. With a shotgun, after the breaching rounds, there can be regular buckshot or slugs; for that matter, according to the article the breaching rounds themselves are usually just modified antipersonnel.

To an extent, this could be an issue for civvie LEO, as well.

[Hollis]

My concern; These are tactics currently being employed. This means we are getting into a OPSEC issue, Discussing it, also helps others to plan a counter measure. I believe this topic was also closed on a SF site not long ago, for the same reason.

If another MOD, feels the need to reopen, no problem. Until then, I am closing it.

Sorry Guys,

Hollis.

The quote from that site:

"Think about it. At some point during your training, somebody probably told you "There is no such thing as a stupid question." They lied. There won't be any in-depth discussions of specific breaching techniques or target analysis done in this, an open forum on the internet."