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    Quote Originally Posted by wholagun
    Quote Originally Posted by tony6
    The man is BOR officer probably...
    BOR thats like the American secret service right? Those are the guys that helped Miller in the chopper right.
    You are right

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    i red somwhere (i can't remeber where) that those guys with cammo on miniBeryl are from scout unit from 25BKPow or something like that but i would say that around miller are BOR guys.

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    Yeah-Miller is protected by BOR.
    Hey wholagun-I like Your new avatar!

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    Are Kupczak boots made of leather or gortex. I see the ones in the pic above are leather, but did they create new ones with gortex by any chance?

    Thanks, there was some confusion about my avatar at first but everthing in straighented out now.

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    As far as I know they (Kupczak Products) use Goretex.
    They've just design new desert boots.Also one of their newest products are anti-mine boots.
    http://www.vip.home.pl
    (it's the only KP www addres I know but there's not much there)

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    GoreTex is inside you can make outside from lether fakelether or pretty everything else that meets specyfications (i have something like cordura + nabuk?nubuk? i don't know how it's caled) and KP boots are lether outside in if i know polish lether it can be weeeeery good (i have glany Dr.Martens alike boots about 6years now and they are still as good as new)

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    Quote Originally Posted by perdurabo
    i red somwhere (i can't remeber where) that those guys with cammo on miniBeryl are from scout unit from 25BKPow or something like that but i would say that around miller are BOR guys.
    The guys with the desert camo Beryl are from 1 PSK (1st SF Commando Regiment); in Iraq they are submitted to Independent Air-Assault Grup, which was created by the 25 Air Cavalery Brigade

    I'm wraiting about pics with min. Szmajdziński; his bodyguards were from 1 PSK. The PM Miller bodyguards are from BOR of course.

    By the way - all pics desert camo Beryl posted already on Militarphotos shows regular (long) rifle, not shorter MiniBeryl.

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    Air Cavalry soldier with his girlfriend before departure to Iraq (second tour):

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    Default Polish 12 Mechanized Divison

    Pictures from PAP shows the truck of Polish 12 Mechanized Division from Szczecin which was hit with a road site bomb near Mahawil, Iraq on Dec 12.

    http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie_..._0084_0003.jpg

    http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie_..._0084_0005.jpg

    http://foto.pap.com.pl/midi_galerie_..._0084_0004.jpg

    ĐPAP 2003

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    Funeral of pollish soldier in Camp Babylon (Iraq) who died of wounds from accidental gun discharge... He was 21 and was the only son of his parents It was raining so photos are blury.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmot1
    Funeral of pollish soldier in Camp Babylon (Iraq) who died of wounds from accidental gun discharge... He was 21 and was the only son of his parents It was raining so photos are blury.
    What happened to the soldier who didnīt have the safety on? Disciplinary penalty or something like that? Anyway... only 21

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    Great pictures on this thread, hadnīt seen it before. Thanks REMOV and all of others, very informative.

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    official version is that it was accidental discharge during weapon cleaning,unofficial and probably true version is that they played with guns with another soldier and the other one had loaded "Beryl" and saftty swithed to burst mode... he fired burst of 3 rounds 2 of them hit the victim in head both mortally... that is the efect of playing with guns... other soldier will be prosecuted for unwilignes manslaughter.


    WARNING THAT PHOTO MAY NOT WORK BUT I WILL TRY TO FIND BETTER LINK.
    Gen. Mieczysław Bieniek commander of the II polish tour in iraq,polish forces started rotation of troops it will take around month since soldiers have to pass their duties and also equipment.


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    Last summary of coalition loses in iraq, combat and non combat(i.e.accidents).

    USA - 478, GB - 52, Italy - 17, Spain - 8, Bulgaria - 5, Poland - 2 Tailand - 2, Denmark - 1 Ukraine - 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmot1
    official version is that it was accidental discharge during weapon cleaning,unofficial and probably true version is that they played with guns with another soldier and the other one had loaded "Beryl" and saftty swithed to burst mode... he fired burst of 3 rounds 2 of them hit the victim in head both mortally... that is the efect of playing with guns... other soldier will be prosecuted for unwilignes manslaughter.

    http://www.irak.pap.pl/cgi-bin/obraz...98&typ=Zdjecie
    WARNING THAT PHOTO MAY NOT WORK BUT I WILL TRY TO FIND BETTR LINK.
    Gen. Mieczysław Bieniek commander of the II polish tour in iraq,polish forces started rotation of troops it will take around month since soldiers have to pass their duties and also equipment.
    Ok thanks. Playing with loaded guns, well what can you say... Here in Sweden there was a incident a couple of years ago when a soldier with a magazine inserted in his gun cocked it, put the gun to his squadleaders back and pulled of the trigger, just for fun, he claimed that he "forgot" that he had a magazine inserted. Oh... anyway he was sentenced for murder.

    I love the polish beret-style with the insignia visible. There is not many countries that use the same system, I know that they use it in the Czech republic as well (any more?). But does two stars simple mean that he is a two star general? Or does it mean that he is Lieutenant General? He looks like someone you donīt want to mess with anyway.



    Iīm sorry if this question has been up earlier. But do the poles use PKMīs (In Iraq) because they consider them as more reliable than other MGīs in 7.62 NATO? They seem to be quite well-equipped with TRG-21īs and all that so I donīt think that itīs just because of saving a couple of zlotnys

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    Well this accident was AFAIK simmilar...

    He is 2 star general there are 3 general ranks in poland



    colonel 3 stars and 2 strips
    brigade general one star & wavy line
    division general two stars & wavy line
    general broni 3 stars & wavy line (hard to translate since it is not the genneral of army it is something like general of army branch like general of air forces general of land forces or something like this... if I am wrong please correct me if someone know how to translate it better.
    marshal of poland curently noone is marshal and in polish history there were 6 or 7 marshals only 3 in independent poland ( 1st one was french general (then marshal) Fosh ) it was awarded for his help in polish-soviet war 1918-20 then 4 were "awarded" by comunist. but almost noone remember them

    visit
    http://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/stopnie.html
    sorry only in polish but there is lot of pictures of polish ranks,uniforms hats,etc

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