Unless I know for sure, most of the time I'm just going by the captions. The group you posted were all from an article on the FFL out of a magazine and the last few before your post I seen before and just thought they were FFL. Sorry for any mistakes but it's not the first time and if you know more about the pics feel free to add corrections anytime.Originally Posted by baboon6
BTW a couple posts back, post no. 193, the top 2 are not FFL for sure, I meant the the French FFL at Dien Bien Phu tiltle for the pics below, which again I apologize if they are not.
No problem. I know it's not necessarily your fault. I just get the impression that many people think that most of the fighting in Indochina was done by the Legion, who were in fact only one element of many in the CEFEO. Keep up the good work.
Magazine came out around 1967, you'll see LRRPs Rangers some Seals and some SOG guys with a few, But the pouches wernt really standardized till around late 1972-73, but never made it to Vietnam. There is one photo of a guy with an early M-16A1 pouch for the 30 in 1972, it had the same style grenade straps as the shorty nylon, but with plastic snaps.
The ALICE M-16 pouch arrived in Vietnam with the USMC as they evaced the embassy and only then, you'll really never ever see another photo of anyone with the 30 round pouch in Nam,
Once again POUCH Not 30 round Magazine sorry for the blunder guys!!!
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For someone who chose a name inspired by MACV-SOG, maybe you should do some more research.
Never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the pouch arrived in Vietnam with the USMC as they evaced the embassy and only then, you'll never ever see another photo of anyone with the 30 round pouch in Nam,
Those 'Yards just look badass. Would not want to mess with them.
hey James
Dude You are totally right!!!!!!!!!
I read 30 round POUCHES and it says 30 round MAGAZINES!!!!!
IM A BIG dope
Well it was late last night, and I was sleepy (thats my excuse)
So please excuse me your right and I was totally incorrect Sir!!!
thanks for pointing that out, I was all ready to get mad a nd say those are magazines.
What are you saying, that those sog guys are wearing 30 round pouches?????
Ranger advisors.
Vietnamese Rangers receive a course of instruction on demolitions from an advisor to the 77th Rangers
Duc My Training center
Sergeant Howard Stevens, Advisor to the 77th Ranger Det, conducts a class on care and maintenance of the M1 rifle
By the way...
Top photo MOH winner Frank Miller
2nd Photo RT Hawaii aagain with Miller,
bottom photo was a 2nd LT now a 2 Star General
Yea bro those are actually Cambodians from Khampuchian Krom, a sect of Cambodia, but yea they are Bad ass!!!!!
What a bunch of bada$$, motherf**cker cutthroats...For someone who chose a name inspired by MACV-SOG, maybe you should do some more research.
Wondering about that top notch equipment they have...usually you see montagnards or similar tribesmen armed with carbines like the M1 or M2...?
They are part of MACV-SOG, not CIDG.What a bunch of bada$$, motherf**cker cutthroats...
Wondering about that top notch equipment they have...usually you see montagnards or similar tribesmen armed with carbines like the M1 or M2...?
Thats because they are members of SCU Special Commando Unit, or SOG. Sog was the only unit in Nam to actually be issued the CAR-15. Thats why theyve got the high speed gear.What a bunch of bada$$, motherf**cker cutthroats...
Wondering about that top notch equipment they have...usually you see montagnards or similar tribesmen armed with carbines like the M1 or M2...?
Also this was the time the Americans were standing down, and allowing the Indigs or Vietnamese to run missions solo, without an American team member. But yea, SOG had all the high speed gear as well as its own supply system and a guy named Ben Baker, making all kinds of super cool gear for em!!
In one of the photos one of the Asians is wearing a set of NVA, actually produced on Okinawa for SOG as well as pith helmets, canteens, boots, and chest rigs.
they were bad ass!!!
[quote=RT-HABU;3308082]By the way...
Top photo MOH winner Frank Miller
2nd Photo RT Hawaii aagain with Miller,
bottom photo was a 2nd LT now a 2 Star General[/quote]
Ken Bowra, now retired from the US Army after serving as CG US Army Special Forces Command.
http://www.stmarytx.edu/ctl/display.php?go=bowra
the final american is (then 1st LT) Ken Bowra the asian in the back row with the cut down boonie was his interpreter Bong, who was later captured and executed by the commies.
This is 1971 and they are preparing for a mission into Laos.
You dont see alot of SOG guys wearing the ERDLs, it was really worn around the camps and on missions during like the last 5 minutes of American involvement.
[quote=baboon6;3308116]Thanks baboon!!! Yea I couldnt remeber his name, and finally it came to me LOL
Yea that guys got a great career, nice guy to chat with on the phone, I know a guy thats tight with him, so I was lucky enough to tell him thanks and such,
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