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    Quote Originally Posted by mr blonde View Post
    you're response doesn't make much sense. israel sells US tech to a potential enemy...and you point out that the US buys products form China. how does that redeem Israel?
    1. US sells weaponry to Israeli enemies in quantity, quality, and potential threat level far exceeding anything Israel has ever sold to China.

    2. The concern US displays toward China's military purchases and the role played by Israel in them is a bit hypocritical, since US/China trade deficit is the primary cause of the Chinese purchasing power. You want to stop CA? - stop shopping in Wall Mart.

    3. US has taken a position postulating that ANY sales of military hardware to China by Israel are a no-no, including technology developed by Israel (Harpy, for example). This would be any ok request from an ally yet point 1 makes it slightly one-sided.

    And as long as we are on topic, which American systems or technologies have been PROVEN to end up in China via Israel?

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    you still haven't adressed the point of my post and i dont think you ever will, of why israel is supplying china with american weapon tech. american soldiers may be killed some day because of this. but i guess my point is too hard for you to accept, you are to blindly in love with israel. Don't talk to me about BS, they way you shovel it around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr blonde View Post
    you still haven't adressed the point of my post and i dont think you ever will, of why israel is supplying china with american weapon tech. american soldiers may be killed some day because of this. but i guess my point is too hard for you to accept, you are to blindly in love with israel. Don't talk to me about BS, they way you shovel it around.

    Well if you got your head out of your butt this has nothing to do with being pro or anti Israel.

    Obviously your playing some BS anti-Israeli/USA game. Try reading and following the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr blonde View Post
    you still haven't adressed the point of my post and i dont think you ever will, of why israel is supplying china with american weapon tech. american soldiers may be killed some day because of this. but i guess my point is too hard for you to accept, you are to blindly in love with israel. Don't talk to me about BS, they way you shovel it around.
    I hope this doesn't come out as a challenge, It's an honest "I didn't know that" question......
    What Mil tech has been sold to China that they could not obtain elsewhere? I always thought we were careful with what we exported because changing climates could make an enemy of a former ally. We've screwed this up before (stingers to Afg, f14 to Iran etc..) but I thought we were pretty careful with what we gave Israel. I thought that for the most part we left out all the good parts (newest radars, best gun sights, latest fire control). Are there and specific examples of classified US weapon systems being sold by Israel to China or another US antagonist.

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    As Palmach said go to Wal-Mart, but let me add, Grizzly Tools, Jet Tools, Craftsman, etc etc etc........ or pick up something you bought recently and see where it was made. Your computer, your cell phone, your shoes, etc,

    Goggle USA China trade relations

    Then Goggle Israel China Trade relations

    Then Goggle USA restrictions on Israeli military trade.

    One might say the US is much more friendlier to China than Israel.


    Oh yeah Look at China's trade relations to countries antagonist to Israel.


    Sort of what Neo is saying, The US can block Israeli Military sells, but the Israeli's can not block what the US sells.

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    Corporation's needs rule foreign policy...they always have!

    What is good for business is good for the country.

    Now, what is good for Wal-Mart is good for the world.

    Believe it or not, with all the crap going on in the world today....What is happening with US, Israeli, Saudi, Chinese, EU, Russian, Indian is business...Big Business...and nothing is going to be allowed to stop it. And, the Big business guys don't really give a flying siht if you or anyone else likes it....so long as you keep buying cheap crap...hell, as long as you just keep buying anything...that's all that matter's.

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    last week l watched a Miachel Moore TV documentary...Main issues are saudis A.Q. and Usame bin laden...

    only Saudis have more than 1 trillion bucks capital investements in USA...Total arabic (KUWAİT UAE OMMAN etc) investments 2,5 times more....l think arabic lobbies may be more powerfull than jewish lobbies in near future so it may effect assistance of USA to israel...

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