Aircraft Carriers Intensive PIX!!

[TORA]

This is a drawing of the 22DDH

[bd popeye]

Tora, In the next 10 years or so how do you see the JMSDF "DDH" ships shaping up? How many? and >>> Do you think they will ever have JSF F-35B on board for operations? Or a ski ramp fitted.

[TORA]

Well, Japan's MoD by the end of the year will publish the next middle term defense white paper (5 years, 2010-2014), they will probably gave an overall view of the defense developments.
I think by 2020 number will be four, two Hyuga Class and two 22DDH.
Previously there were rumours of up to 4 Hyuga to be built, then probably a mistake or a shift of strategies by the MoD, two 14.000 and two 20.000 tons it's probably the most effective choice.
As it has been in the past the DDH always numbered in 4 units, the two Hyuga have been built for replace the two Kurama while the 22DDH for replace the two Shirane, so probably no more than four will be built.
The fleet will probably not go under drastic changes, older vessels will be decommissioned while newer classes will enter in service the number of destroyers seems will remain almost unchanged, same to be said for the submarine fleet wich will remain of 16 units.
Instead seems changes will involve the structure of the fleet and it's formations.
Considering regional developments is clear no one here will just sit and watch, Japan is interested on both the Typhoon and the JSF.
I hope Japan for it's F-X will not buy the F-35 right now as it is not extremely needed, but of course it could be very useful at the end of the next decade with the introduction of bigger vessels.

[bd popeye]

Thanks Tora. Post updates and photos as you find them!

[DaGreatRV]

Now that we are on the subject, let's have a visual comparison.
(I didn't make this, I don't know who did.)


btw, it is speculated that SeaRAM CIWS will be mounted.

[Hump]

Hi Guys, sorry I haven't been in for a few days but I've just installed Windows 7 and I'm still getting used to it. Anyway here are a few to make up for my tardyness....lol







Sorry about the quality of the next couple guys.




























That will have to do for today guys, I should have another post tomorrow.

Hump --

[bd popeye]

Thanks for posting those fine photos Hump...I was on the America in '81 when we "Did the Ditch"....i.e. transited the Suez canal..twice.. I'm pretty sure those pics were from '81 because I see the colorful paint jobs and the A-/7 CorsairII on deck.

[Hump]

Well your gonna love these then mate...lol













Hope you enjoy them Popeye lots of memories mate

Hump --

[TORA]

Now that we are on the subject, let's have a visual comparison.
(I didn't make this, I don't know who did.)


btw, it is speculated that SeaRAM CIWS will be mounted.

In the first informations published by Japan's MoD the armament cited consists of two CIWS and two air defense systems.
If you look at that image you posted we can find four CIWS, two positioned on the ship's rear flanks, another one positioned in front of the island deck and one more situated forward on the left of the flight deck.
It is rumoured RAM could be installed, then it could perhaps consist of two CIWS and two RAM CIWS.
Looking at the image VLS are not visible therefore no medium-long range air defense/ASW.
If that is then seems they choosed a heavier armament for the two smaller ones (Hyuga Class) and a lighter armament for the two bigger ones.

[Eugene Schmidt]

Thanks for posting those fine photos Hump...I was on the America in '81 when we "Did the Ditch"....i.e. transited the Suez canal..twice.. I'm pretty sure those pics were from '81 because I see the colorful paint jobs and the A-/7 CorsairII on deck.

Ditto. The scenery looks the same as it did when we did the canal 5 times in Oct 63 to Dec 63 on our Midlink cruise aboard ESSEX, CVS-9.

EJ

[DaGreatRV]

In the first informations published by Japan's MoD the armament cited consists of two CIWS and two air defense systems.
If you look at that image you posted we can find four CIWS, two positioned on the ship's rear flanks, another one positioned in front of the island deck and one more situated forward on the left of the flight deck.
It is rumoured RAM could be installed, then it could perhaps consist of two CIWS and two RAM CIWS.
Looking at the image VLS are not visible therefore no medium-long range air defense/ASW.
If that is then seems they choosed a heavier armament for the two smaller ones (Hyuga Class) and a lighter armament for the two bigger ones.

Just to clarify, I meant SeaRAM not RAM. So my guess is 2x Phalanx and 2x SeaRAM will be installed.
Here's a datasheet: http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities..._datasheet.pdf

Indeed no VLS cells, to be honest they are not exactly at home on a carrier, that's why you have air defence escorts.

[Hump]

Thanks Ej, Kuddos on the pictures you posted mate, excellent, can't wait till your next post.
Hump

[santana]

Thanks Ej, Kuddos on the pictures you posted mate, excellent, can't wait till your next post.
Hump

Hey Mate can u explain to me the meaning of the word "Kuddos"???

[Hump]

Hi mate,
Kuddos means "Congratulations" or it means a "Pat on the back" for a job well done.

Hump's Dictionary.........lol
Have a good one buddy, how is everything - send me an email.
H

[TORA]

Just to clarify, I meant SeaRAM not RAM. So my guess is 2x Phalanx and 2x SeaRAM will be installed.
Here's a datasheet: http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities..._datasheet.pdf

Indeed no VLS cells, to be honest they are not exactly at home on a carrier, that's why you have air defence escorts.

Yeah too, for CIWS RAM I mean the Phalanx + the RAM ... it could probably be two CIWS and two SeaRAM.

Certainly that but if you look at the Hyuga on the rear it received also a 16 cells VLS with ESSM and Type 07.