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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingswat View Post

    HMCS Bonaventure
    the unoffical name for my lav III at work
    she was a beaut. they've got a few pics at the legion back home of her. definetely a nice lookin boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeoman View Post
    the unoffical name for my lav III at work
    she was a beaut. they've got a few pics at the legion back home of her. definetely a nice lookin boat.
    She is a Majestic Class carrier laid down in Britain and a sister ship to my old carrier HMAS Melbourne



    She is carrying Grumman Trackers (Fwd) and a Seaking Mk50 (Aft). She would also have had A4 Skyhawks below decks



    She was decommissioned in 1984

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvg View Post
    Yep. The good ol' days, when we had a carrier and could send 4 ships to escort it and still have ships in New Guinea, the Antilles and at "home".

    I say we could use the Spanish Buque de Proyección Estratégica and buy F35B's to go with it.
    I'd go for something similar to the Italian old carrier, just a pure light strike/escort carrier (12 to 15 or so aircraft on board including F35B) ... get two, don't buy JLSS, don't call either of them Karel Doorman either because naming an Aircraft carrier after him is way too sarcastic for my taste

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpy1 View Post
    She is a Majestic Class carrier laid down in Britain and a sister ship to my old carrier HMAS Melbourne



    She is carrying Grumman Trackers (Fwd) and a Seaking Mk50 (Aft). She would also have had A4 Skyhawks below decks



    She was decommissioned in 1984
    learn somethin new every day. appreciate that.
    does anyone have pics of the c130 landing on a CV? I can't recall with vessel it was though.

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    Just want to say thanks to all contributers of this thread.
    Aircraft Carriers and their battle group express so much power, it's always impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sp2c View Post
    I'd go for something similar to the Italian old carrier, just a pure light strike/escort carrier (12 to 15 or so aircraft on board including F35B) ... get two, don't buy JLSS, don't call either of them Karel Doorman either because naming an Aircraft carrier after him is way too sarcastic for my taste
    I'm all for that. A light carrier along the lines of the Garibaldi or the Principe de Asturias and indeed two. You've got to have dreams.

    That JLOS (or JSS in english) is a stupid idea anyway. How much more sea-basing/transportation do we need? We've already got the Rotterdam and Johan de Witt. (It's just taking the "purple" thinking beyond reason, if you ask me.)
    We should have spend the money on more capable OPV's or now spend it on a true LHD and just get ordinary oilers.

    But maybe the RNLN thinks it's the only way to keep two oilers in the future, by giving them more than just a replenishment task.

    Let's just sea what the "strategische verkenningen" will bring.
    [SIZE=1](Like I don't know already. The (political) ambitions will be huge, the amount they are willing to spend will be zero. The amount will stay at about 1,5% and the ambitions will not become smaller. And our country is so dependent on trade, and therefore on stability in the world, that it is ridiculous to spend so little on defence.) [/SIZE]

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    United States Navy and multi national force
    - I'm told the Spanish aren't in this pic so I'd guess British, Dutch, French, German

    ( Anyone identify the ships ?)





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    the most right (of the photo) vessel looks like a Dutch M-classe frigate and in the center you have Charles de Gaulle and hms Ocean

    but I'd need a higher res photo (except for the centre, that's definatly de Gaulle and Ocean)

    edit: first ship in the same row as the M Class frigate (in front of the big undoubtedly US carrer) seems to be a French La Fayette class frigate
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Fayette_class_frigate

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    Thanks I thought I recognized the Dutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvg View Post
    I'm all for that. A light carrier along the lines of the Garibaldi or the Principe de Asturias and indeed two. You've got to have dreams.

    That JLOS (or JSS in english) is a stupid idea anyway. How much more sea-basing/transportation do we need? We've already got the Rotterdam and Johan de Witt. (It's just taking the "purple" thinking beyond reason, if you ask me.)
    We should have spend the money on more capable OPV's or now spend it on a true LHD and just get ordinary oilers.

    But maybe the RNLN thinks it's the only way to keep two oilers in the future, by giving them more than just a replenishment task.

    Let's just sea what the "strategische verkenningen" will bring.
    [SIZE=1](Like I don't know already. The (political) ambitions will be huge, the amount they are willing to spend will be zero. The amount will stay at about 1,5% and the ambitions will not become smaller. And our country is so dependent on trade, and therefore on stability in the world, that it is ridiculous to spend so little on defence.) [/SIZE]
    That's the thing, you can't use the LPD's for RAS, they're meant for troops/materiel and solid supply transport.
    Another point, if we get two AC's, what will we escort them with? One is doable, but two would be a cause of major strain on operational capability of the navy. Of course the navy could use it a spearhead to buy more ships(like that'll happen if The Hague didn't sell the M's they wouldn't have to buy new ones for quite some years, case of bad management if you ask me)
    I could see a budget increase happen, but there'd need to be some major incident to convince the government(just like placing a trafficlight after the accident happens)
    But hey, like you said, we can dream right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satellite Weapon View Post
    A rare occurence of a 5-country multinational fleet, during Operation Enduring Freedom in the Oman Sea. In four descending columns, from left to right: [*******#0000ff]ITS Maestrale[/COLOR] (F 570), [*******#0000ff]De Grasse[/COLOR] (D 612); [*******#0000ff]USS John C. Stennis[/COLOR] (CVN 74), [*******#0000ff]Charles de Gaulle[/COLOR] (R 91), [*******#0000ff]Surcouf[/COLOR] (F 711); [*******#0000ff]USS Port Royal[/COLOR] (CG-73), [*******#0000ff]HMS Ocean[/COLOR] (L 12), [*******#0000ff]USS John F. Kennedy[/COLOR] (CV 67), [*******#0000ff]HNLMS Van Amstel[/COLOR] (F 831); and [*******#0000ff]ITS Luigi Durand de la Penne[/COLOR] (D 560) (18th of April 2002).

    Original DoD caption:
    Naval vessels from five nations sail in parade formation for a rare photographic opportunity at sea. From top row left to right: the Italian Navy (Marina Militare) ship Maestrale Class Frigate MM MAESTRALE (F 570), French Navy Tourville Class Destroyer DE GRASSE (D 612), Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier USS JOHN C. STENNIS (CVN 74), US Navy (USN) Ticonderoga Class Cruisers USS PORT ROYAL (CG 73), French Navy Charles de Gaulle Class Aircraft Carrier CHARLES DE GAULLE (R 91), Royal Navy Helicopter Carrier, Her Majestys Ship (HMS) OCEAN (L 12), French La Fayette Class Frigate SURCOUF (F 711), Aircraft Carrier USS JOHN F. KENNEDY (CV 67), Netherlands Navy Karel Doorman Class Frigate Her Majestys Netherlands Ship (Harer Majesteits) (HNLMS) VAN AMSTEL (F 831), Italian Navy De La Penne (ex-Animoso) Class Destroyer, MM LUIGI DURAND DE LA PENNE (ex Animoso) (D 560). The coalition forces are deployed in support of Operation ENDURING FREEDOM. (Released to Public)
    DoD photo by: PH3 ALTA I. CUTLER, USN Date Shot: 18 Apr 2002
    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fleet_5_nations.jpg

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    ah there we go

    even a better resolution photo

    Quote Originally Posted by RSone View Post
    That's the thing, you can't use the LPD's for RAS, they're meant for troops/materiel and solid supply transport.
    Another point, if we get two AC's, what will we escort them with? One is doable, but two would be a cause of major strain on operational capability of the navy. Of course the navy could use it a spearhead to buy more ships(like that'll happen if The Hague didn't sell the M's they wouldn't have to buy new ones for quite some years, case of bad management if you ask me)
    I could see a budget increase happen, but there'd need to be some major incident to convince the government(just like placing a trafficlight after the accident happens)
    But hey, like you said, we can dream right?
    just because the Americans have the money to send their carriers out in big taskforces does not mean we would have to and it certainly is no argeument against such a thing.
    besides the joint support ship would have the same 'problem' as it displaces more water then for instance the Italian Garibaldi

    I'd escort it with 1 LCF and 1 sub

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    If those politicians just hadn't sold all of the M-class ships and bought 4 OPV's and we wouldn't buy a JSS, we could have bought 2 small cariers and easily escort them with 2 M's and 1 LCF and 1 sub.

    Personnel on the other hand might have been a problem. And maybe the associated cost of operating them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satellite Weapon View Post


    United States Navy and multi national force
    - I'm told the Spanish aren't in this pic so I'd guess British, Dutch, French, German

    ( Anyone identify the ships ?)





    taken from
    http://bemil.chosun.com/brd/view.htm...5&pn=2&num=209
    Not Germany but Italia Marina Militare

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    Fresh from the Daily thread!...

    I just found PIX of the RN Ark Royal. Enjoy!









    GARE LOCH, UNITED KINGDOM - MARCH 12: HMS Ark Royal makes its way up The Gareloch towards Faslane Naval base, 25 miles from Glasgow, after being on manoeuvres of the coast of Scotland March 12, 2008 in Scotland. The 20,600 ton Royal Navy flagship, launched in 1981, is expected to remain in service until 2016. (Photo by Jeff J Mitchell/***** Images)

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