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    Excellent thread gentelmen! Excellent.

    As a black man in America it is very important to remember history..all history. I found since I moved to Iowa in 2004 these young(under 20) black children have little sense of our Black heritage. I blame the schools for not establishing some sort of circrulium for this subject. And Black parents for not demanding it. I would say that many young Blacks all over America have a limited view of much of Black History.

    I'm happy aspects of Black History are being discussed in this thread.

    Since this is a military forum..I wrote this some months ago in the family history thread.

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    Before I start this saga I will let you know that I am an African-American and I hold no anomosity towards the Confederacy..That being said..

    My Great great Grand dad on my moms side was A.P.Hill General Confederate States of America.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.P._Hill

    My grand dad on my dads side served in the Spanish American War and was one of the thousands of Black Americans that help build the Panama Canal.

    My dad was one of the first Black US Marines. Serving from 1944-47. Acheiving the rank of Gunnery Sgt.

    Two of my uncles were "lifers in the US Army and USAF". Both served 22 years. My USAF uncle served from 1944-1966. My army uncle served from 1945-1967.

    I have a cousin that served in the USAF from 1968-1972 including a tour in 'Nam. He was some kind of water purity tech.(???)

    I, Big Daddy Popeye, served in the United States Navy from August 1971 until August 1991. I was an avation ordananceman for 11 years and then a parachute-rigger(aircrew survial equipmentman) for 9 years. I made 7 major deployments on 5 aircraft carriers and served at several major shore commands.



    I have a son that served on active duty with the US Navy as a sonar tech first class(STG1/SW) from 1998 until 2007. He is now serving in the US Naval reserve.


    I'm Big Daddy Popeye..I never wear Red....

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    Among the very first patriotic heroes of American were those killed on Monday March 5, 1770 in the Boston Massacre.

    One of the five martyrs was the free blackman Crispus Attucks surely an American Patriot 5 years before Revere and the stand at Lexington by the Minutemen.

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    Just because Feb. has come and gone doesn't mean you can't post. If you come across something interesting, feel free to post it.

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    This Pic is interesting. I wonder if its a training pic. Or if its real action. I know that blacks played a minimal role in the 2nd world war.

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    I recently purchased a copy of Kareem Abdul-Jabar's "Brothers in Arms", about the 761st Tank Battalion in WWII. I'm looking forward to reading it, as it seems like a good book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Createdeemcee View Post

    I know that blacks played a minimal role in the 2nd world war.
    How do you "know" they played a "minimal" role? Many all black units participated in combat. They also were used for many CS and CSS duties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Createdeemcee View Post


    This Pic is interesting. I wonder if its a training pic. Or if its real action. I know that blacks played a minimal role in the 2nd world war.
    change that to a vital role, exspecially since they were in charge of most of the logistics and convoy security on the march through Euroupe not includeding the other vital roles they took on.

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    I'm guessing he didn't know that a lot of the drivers on the "Red Ball Express" were black. Or that many of the Engineer units building roads were also black. And I could guarantee that the bomber pilots escorted by the Tuskegee Airmen found them vital, just as my former JROTC instructor (his bomb group was escorted by them several times). I could go on, and on, but educating people is what this thread was started for in the first.

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    Photos of African American service members during WWII....

    Disclaimer..All captions are the original captions written at the time the pictures were taken.



    "Pilots of a U.S. Army Air Forces fighter squadron, credited with shooting down 8 of the 28 German planes destroyed in dog-fights over the new Allied beachheads south of Rome, on Jan. 27, talk over the day's exploits at a U.S. base in the Mediterranean theater. Negro members of this squadron, veterans of the North African and Sicilian campaigns, were formerly classmates at a university in the southern U.S." February 1944. 208-MO-18H-22051.


    "[Capt. Andrew D. Turner], who in a few minutes will be escorting heavy bombers en route to enemy targets, signals to the chief of his ground crew before taking off from a base in Italy. He is a member of the 15th U.S. Army Air Force, which has been smashing enemy objectives in Germany and the Balkans with both fighter and bomber craft. The pilot's plane, a Mustang, is named for a type of wild


    "Negro sailors of the U.S.S. Mason (DE 529) commissioned at Boston Navy Yard on 20 Mar. 1944 proudly look over their ship which is the first to have [a] predominately Negro crew." March 20, 1944. 80-G-218861.


    A gun crew of six Negroes who were given the Navy Cross for standing by their gun when their ship was damaged by enemy attack in the Philippine area." Crew members: Jonell Copeland, AtM2/c; Que Gant, StM; Harold Clark, Jr., StM; James Eddie Dockery, StM; Alonzo Alexander Swann, StM; and Eli Benjamin, StM. Ca. 1945. 80-G-334029.


    "Enlisted men serving on Espiritu Santo in the New Hebrides...placing 6-inch shells in magazines at the Naval Ammunition Depot." From left to right: S1/c Dodson B. Samples, S1/c Raymond Wynn, S1/c Edward L. Clavo, and S1/c Jesse Davis. N.d. 80-G-123941.


    "Hospital Apprentices second class Ruth C. Isaacs, Katherine Horton and Inez Patterson (left to right) are the first Negro WAVES to enter the Hospital Corps School at National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, MD." March 2, 1945. 80-G-12650.


    "Negro GIs and American Red Cross workers, college graduates, join in some musical fun at Assam, India..." Left to right: Cpl. Robert Barttow, Pvt. James Montgomery, Jeannette C. Dorsey, and Willie Lee Johnson. August 23, 1944. Grigg. 111-SC-32974.


    "Christmas Dance at Negro Service Club #3. The dance was sponsored by the 1323rd Engineers. They had their own orchestra. Camp Swift, Texas." December 23, 1943. Pvt. Greene. 111-SC-18834.


    "Admiral C. W. Nimitz, CinCPac, pins Navy Cross on Doris "Dorie" Miller, at ceremony on board warship in Pearl Harbor, T. H." May 27, 1942. 208-NP-8PP-2.


    "U.S.-built Army trucks wind along the side of the mountain over the Ledo supply road now open from India into Burma..." n.d. 208-AA-45L-1


    "Cpl. Carlton Chapman...is a machine-gunner in an M-4 tank, attached to a Motor Transport unit near Nancy, France." 761st Mt. Bn. November 5, 1944. Ryan. 111-SC-196106-S.


    "Crews of U.S. light tanks stand by awaiting call to clean out scattered Nazi machine gun nests in Coburg, Germany." April 25, 1945. 208-AA-32P-10.

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    awesome thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijinsamurai View Post
    I recently purchased a copy of Kareem Abdul-Jabar's "Brothers in Arms", about the 761st Tank Battalion in WWII. I'm looking forward to reading it, as it seems like a good book.
    I just came across Patton's Panthers at the book store, also about the 761st.

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    ^ Looks interesting, Oswald. I'll have to look for it.

    I recently spotted another book about your dad's unit too.

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    Oh? You remember the name?

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    No! I'm trying to recall which bookstore in which I saw it, too.

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    I'll be posting pix in this old thread this month..enjoy!



    Admiral Chester W. Nimitz pins Navy Cross on Doris Miller, at ceremony on board warship in Pearl Harbor, May 27, 1942
    http://www.nps.gov/pwso/honor/miller.htm

    On December 7, 1941, when the Japanese made their infamous surprise attack at Pearl Harbor, a black cook, Doris "Dorie" Millertook over a machine gun aboard theUSS West Virginia and became one of the first heroes of World War II. Miller dragged the ship's commanding officer, Capt. Bennion out of the line of fire, and manned the ship's machine gun. Despite shooting down several attacking aircraft his citiation for bravery his citation reads: "For distinguished devotion to duty, extraordinary courage and disregard for his own personal safety during the attack on the Fleet in Pearl Harbor, Territory of Hawaii, by Japanese forces on December 7, 1941. While at the side of his Captain on the bridge, Miller, despite enemy strafing and bombing and in the face of a serious fire, assisted in moving his Captain, who had been mortally wounded, to a place of greater safety, and later manned and operated a machine gun directed at enemy Japanese attacking aircraft until ordered to leave the bridge."
    Like Miller, no African-American sailor or officer was ever recommended for or awarded a Congressional Medal of Honor. They served despite many other similar heroic efforts, and under extremely oppresive conditions during World War II. Many often fought a quiet, internal battle with officers who consistantly implemented unlawful orders, denied them equal protection under the Constitution, and generally put their men at risk in the face of the enemy.


    "However pressing his duties STM2/c James Lee Frazer always finds time to read a few chapters from his Bible each day. In this study he is especially intense about his devotional routine...it was the night before the opening strike of a raid on Manila Bay." January 9, 1945.


    . "1st Lt. Lee Rayford...who has returned to the United States from Italy where he served with the 99th Fighter Squadron. The nature of his assignment here has not been announced. Other pilots formerly assigned to the 99th now back in America include 1st Lts. Walter I. Lawson, Charles W. Dryden, Graham Smith and Louis R. Purnell."


    "An armorer of the 15th U.S. Air Force checks ammunition belts of the .50 caliber machine guns in the wings of a P-51 Mustang fighter plane before it leaves an Italian base for a mission against German military targets. The 15th Air Force was organized for long range assault missions and its fighters and bombers range over enemy targets in occupied and satellite nations, as well as Germany itself." Ca. September 1944.


    "Members of a Negro mortar company of the 92nd Division pass the ammunition and heave it over at the Germans in an almost endless stream near Massa, Italy. This company is credited with liquidating several machine gun nests..." ca. November 1944


    "Cpl. Carlton Chapman...is a machine-gunner in an M-4 tank, attached to a Motor Transport unit near Nancy, France." 761st Mt. Bn. November 5, 1944.


    "Hospital Apprentices second class Ruth C. Isaacs, Katherine Horton and Inez Patterson (left to right) are the first Negro WAVES to enter the Hospital Corps School at National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, MD." March 2, 1945.

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