Reply With Quote75th generally uses avs-6s or pvs-15sOriginally Posted by BrianPostles
I think Digrar's estimations are a little conservative if a mate of mine is to be believed. Not to forget to mention that the ADF all got a 5k payrise this year.
Operators here get about 100k even if they don't get deployed. But that is including various allowances. Even then they are only on paygrade 7 of which there are 10 pay grades.
75th generally uses avs-6s or pvs-15s
u know... i always thought that Rangers on the 75th were Special Operation Forces, but lately I've been told that they are just a more specialized light infantry soldiers with great gear and tactics...anyone here that can help me???
Who every told you that is wrong. Ranger reg is part of SOCOM and for the last few years been the go to DA force for SOCOM/JSOC. Elements of Batt have been working with (not for) CAG and DEVGRU almost exclusively for the last few years and those guys (CAG,DEVGRU) don’t like working with anyone else. Batt has come a long way since the 2001 and have been responsible for an incredible amount of success in the war on terror, most off witch is not public. Close to 2/3rd of CAG come from Batt and there is a reason for that.
oh gotcha, yeah im issued the PVS-14 which i dont like because i dont really understand the concept of monocular shooting... but the new ENVG's that are thermal/night vision, do you think they will come out with a binocular like the PVS-15 for SOF?
The reason for the monocular is to allow your other eye to be adjusted to the light condition your in allowing you to have better depth perceptionand for close in navigation with none dominate eye. It works better when used in open terrain. But I’m with you on dual tube it is king, especially when working in a CQC environment.
We are about 5 years out from a light weight dual tube fusions ystem. The ENVG is a step in the right direction but it’s just that. Its bulky,battery hungry and just uncomfortable to wear. BrianT may have experience with the clip on thermal that attaches to the PVS-15 as pictured below. It’s a Skeeter IRthermal mini monocular and it is how it looks, an out of place tumor that adds weight but does allow for a sort of half ass fusion systems. It is in use but I believe that use is limited. Hope that helps
No I haven't seen that before. I imagine that's awkward as **** to have.
L3/Insight has one, but it's getting very limited use within SOCOM due I believe to expense. Funny enough, it looks like the goggles from Splinter Cell, two NVG tubes and a thermal sensor where your forehead is.
Tex is spot on. I'd almost make an argument that all combat-focused SOF are specialized light infantry if you really get down to the definition of it.
They are currently working on some second gen versions of these that should be smaller and lighter. Notice they happen to use avs-style mount.
Last edited by BrianT; 12-29-2011 at 01:20 AM.
Hey brianT I'm not sure how much you know on the force, but how would you relate the 75th to 1st Parachute regiment of the UK? would you said 75th is more elite? who would u say is better trained?
You mean 1 Para (1st Battalion The Parachute Regiment) / Special Forces Support Group.
I have a few friends in SFSG and they say they get on well with the Rangers and like working with them.
1/75 fielded something similar to that but it was more low profile. Only a small number were fielded.
It’s a Skeeter IRthermal mini monocular and it is how it looks, an out of place tumor that adds weight but does allow for a sort of half ass fusion systems. It is in use but I believe that use is limited. Hope that helps
I don't know much about them. Comparing US units to Brit units is always weird because of the size differences of our Armies. For all intents and purposes, the Paras are more comparative to the 82nd, but as far as selection, and size closer to the 75th. I'd bet a Para platoon or a RM Commando platoon would have no problem physically keeping up with our SOF, but for budget reasons and conventional vs SOF probably lack a lot of the training and equipment we get making us better performers. Now, the SFSG I know even less about. I have seen them overseas back when the Brits still ****ed around in Iraq. You could usually differentiate them from the SAS. It'd be a shame if they were strictly regulated to being a blocking force. My one conversation with a chap from the SAS in the chow line after asking for like 20 chicken fingers went something like:
"Beeeeh asdfasldjfalsdf;hadsfl"
"What?"
"Beeeh asdfadjfas;dljasdflajsdf"
"What?"
"Beeeh asdfas;lkdfjjalsdfj"
"Oh yeah, hahahahaha"
*quickly walk away*
Yeah that no **** happen. I assume he was making a joke about the chicken fingers. Some of those dudes speak a whole other English. He might of been a Scot or something. So no I never really bothered to ask them questions. We hang out in the same areas and compounds, but don't necessarily interact much together.
@BrianT Thanks, that answers my question completely lol. Thats hilarious about the SAS conversation. They recruit from all over the UK, so i guess you will get those scots with thick accents lol. I know you were previously 75th, and if i remember correctly you were trying to get back into it? iis that happening or are you currently in it again?
I plan on doing the guard soon, but going back active after I finish my degree is the plan.
Oh really? I'm in the guard now. Going from 75th to national guard your going to have a very big shock lol :s. I wish i learned more about the army before i enlisted.. looking back now i wish i opt. 40 to the Batt :/ instead im going to finish up this deployment, try and complete a 4 year degree in college while finishing out this national guard contract, then somehow hope to get into the 75th. you think its possible?
I've heard similar from coalition pers who have worked with them......where the "Black Hawk Down thinking" of rigid/distinct CAG assault group and Ranger cordon/fire support/depth roles have been superceded with hybrid force structure "recipes" depending on the job.....including Ranger heavy and CAG light mashups at the granular level....a bit of an opposite of what many might expect or assume.
Maybe a bit like adding Joe Montana and Jim Brown to a winning Division I College Football team playing in a Bowl Game.
2nd hand speculation on my part.
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