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    Has anyone heard anything about M1A2 Abrams tanks for the Mexican Army?
    M1 Abrahams [Heavy Tank] (12) "M1" in early 2008, a set of 12 M1A2 was ordered by the Mexican government led by Felipe Calderon to the US Foreign Military Sales Dept. and are expected to be shipped in by Early september 2008 to couple with the Independence day of Mexico. It has a combat weight of 57,160 kg with a maximum road speed of 67km/h, a 120 mm. cannon with APDSF-T rounds along with DU round capability. movement sensors and high-tech tracking/nightvision/firing device (EMES-17 used in the Leopard 2 German Tanks)and anti-mine devices along special amphibious devices to match with the sub-tropical ground. This vehicle is expected to be used only in case of a full-state war (DN-1) with a foreign country.

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    This vehicle is expected to be used only in case of a full-state war (DN-1) with a foreign country.
    Like Guatemala?

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    From Wikipedia, the fountain of all knowledge.......

    M1 Abrahams [Heavy Tank] (12) "M1" in early 2008, a set of 12 M1A2 was ordered by the Mexican government led by Felipe Calderon to the US Foreign Military Sales Dept. and are expected to be shipped in by Early september 2008 to couple with the Independence day of Mexico. It has a combat weight of 57,160 kg with a maximum road speed of 67km/h, a 120 mm. cannon with APDSF-T rounds along with DU round capability. movement sensors and high-tech tracking/nightvision/firing device (EMES-17 used in the Leopard 2 German Tanks)and anti-mine devices along special amphibious devices to match with the sub-tropical ground. This vehicle is expected to be used only in case of a full-state war (DN-1) with a foreign country.

    Also from the Great Wikipedia Oracle.....

    The Mexican Army works around three preparedness missions, or plans:
    • DN1: Preparation of the military forces to repel external aggressions. No military armed force can leave Mexican territory without a declaration of war, and approval of the Congress. The last time this was invoked was in 1942, to send an expeditionary force to the Philippines, after war was declared against Germany and Japan, following the sinking of two Mexican ships by U-boats. In 1990 President Carlos Salinas de Gortari asked the permission of the Congress to send troops to the Gulf War, but it was refused, since there was no declaration of war against Iraq.

    • DN2: Preparation of the military forces to protect the internal security of the country. This would include police actions against guerrilla forces, counter-drug operations, and, originally, political control. Up to 1970, the Mexican Army had been used as a repressive force to maintain the virtual dictatorship of the single-party PRI government. The most controversial use of the military had been called "The dirty war" in the 1960s, which included the 1968 Tlatelolco massacre of students and unexpecting bystanders. After 1980 these types of operations had nearly completely ceased (see EZLN).

    • DN3: Defense against natural disasters. The Army should always be ready to help the civil population in case of disaster. This include preventive measures. For example, between August and November, military forces are sent to Mexican coastal areas to aid the public in the event of hurricanes or floods. For the Mexican people, the DN3 plan is the most important peacetime operation of the Army. The Army provides food, shelter, medicine, and medical services to the people that need them. This also includes reconstruction of roads and communication services. Because calling the implementation DN3 plan is an acceptance of severe problems, the DN3 plan was not invoked in the 1985 Mexico City earthquake that left large areas of Mexico City in ruins, since the authorities did not want to recognize there was an emergency in the capital, while the army was called to the city, it was just a a peacekeeping force. This latter became a severe questioning on the government. Also, the Mexican Army provided aid to the US when the hurricanes Katrina and Rita occurred to help the people in need.
    So please try to limit unrestricted U-Boat warfare to outside Mexican territorial waters....

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    Anything from Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked_hind View Post
    Anything from Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of salt.
    Exactly.
    To my knowledge, the Mexican army dosent have any M1A2 Abrams tanks... but Im probably wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Phillips View Post
    Has anyone heard anything about M1A2 Abrams tanks for the Mexican Army?
    M1 Abrahams [Heavy Tank] (12) "M1" in early 2008, a set of 12 M1A2 was ordered by the Mexican government led by Felipe Calderon to the US Foreign Military Sales Dept. and are expected to be shipped in by Early september 2008 to couple with the Independence day of Mexico. It has a combat weight of 57,160 kg with a maximum road speed of 67km/h, a 120 mm. cannon with APDSF-T rounds along with DU round capability. movement sensors and high-tech tracking/nightvision/firing device (EMES-17 used in the Leopard 2 German Tanks)and anti-mine devices along special amphibious devices to match with the sub-tropical ground. This vehicle is expected to be used only in case of a full-state war (DN-1) with a foreign country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildgoose View Post
    From Wikipedia, the fountain of all knowledge.......

    M1 Abrahams [Heavy Tank] (12) "M1" in early 2008, a set of 12 M1A2 was ordered by the Mexican government led by Felipe Calderon to the US Foreign Military Sales Dept. and are expected to be shipped in by Early september 2008 to couple with the Independence day of Mexico. It has a combat weight of 57,160 kg with a maximum road speed of 67km/h, a 120 mm. cannon with APDSF-T rounds along with DU round capability. movement sensors and high-tech tracking/nightvision/firing device (EMES-17 used in the Leopard 2 German Tanks)and anti-mine devices along special amphibious devices to match with the sub-tropical ground. This vehicle is expected to be used only in case of a full-state war (DN-1) with a foreign country.
    must have been a copy and paste job

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    Quote Originally Posted by ...WARLORD... View Post
    Exactly.
    To my knowledge, the Mexican army dosent have any M1A2 Abrams tanks... but Im probably wrong.
    To my knowledge, they don't have any main battle tanks in their inventory.

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    There was a rumor goin round that the Mexican Navy was given our old Navy ships...is that true?

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    The best place to ask that question is to go to the Mexican Armed Forces thread in the Photos & Videos section. You'll find guys there who can tell you much more than I ever could. Good hunting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ...WARLORD... View Post
    There was a rumor goin round that the Mexican Navy was given our old Navy ships...is that true?
    The Mexican Navy had a WW2 Fletcher Class DDG serving up till 2002.

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    No, this is not true. Mexico has no M-1 battle tanks or have any on order. Either this guy been playing too much Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter or making jokes up.

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    Ehm, the article says they are going to have them in september 2008...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jippo View Post
    Ehm, the article says they are going to have them in september 2008...
    I think it comes from Wiki and is probably SNAFU

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    It's Wiki, just edit it.....

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    I believe Mexican Abrams come with spinner caps, 3 shades of primer, plastic Jesus statues and tassles.

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