Vektor CR-21 (South Africa)
Vektor CR-21
CR-21 - optical sight 1X with aiming reticle shown at left
If anyone has more photos of this gun or South African soldiers with the gun that would be great please post them.Caliber: 5.56 NATO (.223rem)
Overall length: 760mm
Barrel length: 460mm
Weigth: 3,8 kg loaded
Magazine capacity: 35 rds
Sigth: Telescopic 1X with illuminated reticle
Internally, this rifle is a the ol' good AK-47, or, to be more precise - the Galil. The CR-21 has the same "old AK" style machined steel receiver, trigger and bolt group. Fire selector is a Galil-styled, ambidextrous, and located at the rear part of the gun. Safety switch is button-style, and located in the triggerguard. The receiver is fully enclosed in polymer buttstock, unlike the other latest bull-pup designs, where receivers are integral parts of the stock (or vice versa. On the top of the receiver there is a rails for quick intercangeable scopes. Standart scope is 1X (no magnivication) with light gathering device and illuminated reticle (no batteries required).
Dennis, as far as I know, no conventional South African military unit has been issued with this weapon. The standard issue is still the R-4 (Galil), although the Special Forces may have used this one. If so, I've come across no photos/written accounts thereof.
That looks a hell of a lot like the Israeli TAR21.
Yes, indeed. If you look at most "SA produced" weapons, they are nothing short of a locally manufactured verions of a foreign (particularly Israeli) weapon. The standard issue R-4 is essentially the Galil - they look almost identical, and work identically.
Thanks anyway. I to have never seen any SA troops with them. Think it has anything to with the 5.56 round. You would think that SA Forces fight more in the bush and need a bigger round and the .223 is to small.
It Does look alot like the TAR21
Thanks, Dennis
Looks like anyother ****ty bullpupp rifle around which nobody whants to use.
Anybody know a good bullpup rifle besides famas.
Dennis, the standard South African R4 is also 5.56mm, so thats not the reason it's not being used. I have no idea what the reason is, though.
The SA army used to use the R1 (locally produced version of the FN FAL) which was 7.62mm. Much heavier weapon and too long for close in work in the bush, although I know many guys who swear by it's "stopping power".
lenin wrote:
I did'nt realize the FAMAS was considered good!Anybody know a good bullpup rifle besides famas.
But since you ask.. how about the real deal:
Steyr Stg.77 AUG assault rifle (Austria)
He219
As I've stated before I'm a huge AUG fan, particularly now with it's new rail system.
Is that a 9mm magwell?
To tell you the truth, I had to look that up, and yes it is.
internally it is identical to a ak. i really dont like bllpups but as hard as it is to admit it i do like the famas the most. sham about it being french.
here is some info http://world.guns.ru/assault/as26-e.htm
I hate the FAMAS.
Just a question for anyone who has used it before, where is the safety catch/selector swith loacted on the FAMAS?
I've used the airsoft version which has the safety catch located behind the magazine housing!!! In my oppinion that's absolute madness to have a safety catch way back there.
Safety/fire selector (Three positions - Safe/Semi/Auto) is located within the triggerguard, just ahead of the trigger.Originally Posted by ScreamingEagle
Well, at least the FAMAS is better than the Steyr "Suicide Mission" Aug.lenin wrote:
I did'nt realize the FAMAS was considered good!Anybody know a good bullpup rifle besides famas.
But since you ask.. how about the real deal:
Steyr Stg.77 AUG assault rifle (Austria)
He219
Anyone noticed how those new bullpups are all named "21"?
SAR-21
TAR-21
CR21
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