Reply With QuoteI wasn't aware the Sig 226 was available in .45, I thought that was the Sig 220?Originally Posted by wamp0311
I like the fact that many Sigs now come with interchangeable barrels for the .357 sig and .40 S&W...
I wasn't aware the Sig 226 was available in .45, I thought that was the Sig 220?
I had basically heard the same thing as wamp, I couldn't remember if it was TX DPS or a local PD, but yeah they are digging the stop rate with the .357SIG. From the f/a instructors I have talked with the .357 SIG is not experiencing the same amounts of problems that we are with our P229s in .40. It may be because it is a necked down cartridge or hotter round.
Nice catch didnt realize I had put that
It's a good round and better then 9mm but I'll stick with .45 instead (and 5.7x28mm)
Yep about 100 - 130 USD you can get a 357 sig barrel for a glock in 40 S&W,
Putting a 357 sig barrel in the long barrel Glock 35 is alot of fun. Hardly any recoil and the FPS coming out of that long barrel is amazing.
Here is a page to help you out concerning the caliber
http://glockmeister.com/357sig.shtml
What's the difference between a 125gr 357Sig and a 9mm 124gr +p+?
I couldnt tell you exactly but this might help....
http://www.handguninfo.com/Archive/w...57.compare.htm
Another way of looking at it, 9 mm to 357 Sig is like 38 special to 357 Mag.
Between the 0.38 and the 0.357, I will choose the 0.38 as having the better balance between power and shootability.
BTW, nice link Wamp. It's not surprising that the 0.357SiG can be loaded to a higher pressure given the larger shell volume.
The difference is that 357SIG handgun was designed for that cartridge to fire many thousands of rounds. While there is no handgun that I know of that will tolerate 9mm +P+ for the same amount of rounds. The quickest way to prematurely wear off you 9mm pistol is to shoot +p+ regularly. Not to mention that in most cases +p+ is available only to LE officers and is very expencive.
I got this from tactical forums:
"The statement that the .357Sig, “has the ability to defeat hard targets better it can expand more with an equal bullet type.”, is not supported by either our research or that of the FBI FTU Ballistic Research Facility in Quantico, VA. When firing through heavy clothing, automotive steel panels, automobile windshield glass, interior wall segments, exterior wall segments, and plywood, both the .357 Sig Speer 125 gr JHP Gold Dot and 9mm Speer 124 gr +P JHP Gold Dot exhibited nearly identical penetration and expansion results THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT BARRIERS. Several .40 S&W and .45 ACP loads offered superior terminal performance through barriers compared to the 9mm and .357 Sig loads."
I'm not familiar with the 0.357 SIG, but what I've read so far wouldn't convince me to switch from 9mm to 0.357 SIG. The 0.357 SiG 125gr seems to be no better than the 9mm 124gr +P. Looking at an expanded bullet, the 0.357SIG bullet has roughly the same diameter as both 124gr and 147gr 9mm round. The 147gr load had slightly better penetration in ballistic gelatin. Given this, performance probably won't be that different.
So the 0.357Sig is more equivalent to the 9mm +p than the 9mm +p+.
And if I'm not wrong, what is +P in US civilian loads is roughly equivalent to the pressure in NATO loads. Many 9mm pistols - including many forty year old Browning Hi-Powers - continue to happily accept NATO loads without problem.
My $0.02 is, don't give up on the 9mm just yet. If you want really want to trade up, go with the 0.40 instead. The 0.357Sig doesn't seem to do much more than the 9mm +p.
Good to know again, even though I already knew it.THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT BARRIERS. Several .40 S&W and .45 ACP loads offered superior terminal performance through barriers compared to the 9mm and .357 Sig loads."
Thanks alot guys. That helped alot
So out of the 4 rounds witch would be the best deffence round. For a last resort sort of thing.
Witch would you want to have on your hip if you had nothing else and you were backed into a corner/ditch/hell.
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