Handgun procurement

[abncougar]

anybody here own any Walther handguns? if so, can you tell me how you like it compared to other brands (colt, taurus, s&w). are they good weapons or low quality?

[Futile Talisman]

anybody here own any Walther handguns? if so, can you tell me how you like it compared to other brands (colt, taurus, s&w). are they good weapons or low quality?

I had the Smith / Walther combo, P-99.40 cal, position of the mag (amidextrious) release sucked and and the decocker was too far back to comfortably or easily use.

Only put about 300 rounds through it till I switched to a Sig 229 in .357

I am in no way in the know about this stuff like Geezah or Durandal and other board members, I just didn't like the weapon, even down to little red dot thing that told you if you were in single action. Was easy to maintain and clean.

Noobs opinion here my friend, you'll get better ones I am sure.

Stay Safe

FT

[Durandal]

I like their P-22....seriously, I do, but it sounds like I have shot the good ones. They've had some mechanical problems from what I hear.

Not a fan of the ergonomics of the 99.

Plenty of other guns needing to be bought.

I'd look at one of the early Walthers, say from the 1930s to 1960s for a collection and occasional shooting, but that's about it, if the price were right.

Just my opinion...take it for what its worth.

But hey, James Bond carries one, so it MUST be good.

[abncougar]

haha, oh yeah, mr. bond.

it would be for occasional shooting but also for carrying. i was looking at all the smaller, compact pieces and trying to do some research. lemme tell you though, i am somewhat a virgin with handgund, i've shot plenty, but i don't know **** about them. so is 9mm the same as .40, or just closely related?

my buddy carries a 1911, but im a believer that you dont need a .45 to stop a mugging. plus 1911 are much more expensive

[abncougar]

what is the difference between a .357 magnum and a .357 sig??

[abncougar]

i do like how the P22 has an external striker, at least thats what the pic on the waltherusa website shows, however, its only a .22, that doesnt quite pack a punch does it?

[Futile Talisman]

what is the difference between a .357 magnum and a .357 sig??

revolver / semi auto handgun


USSS uses the 229 in .357, and Massachusetts State Police went from Glock 17 to 226 in .40 about 4 years ago.

A question beeaten to death but I have to ask,

@Durandal

Muzzle Velocity or caliber of round, best knock down power, for example 9mm or .45, is this an endless debate?

[Durandal]

Oh boy, where to start...

First of all, you can get a 1911 for the same price, more or less as P99...

You can pick up a 1911 for around 469 to 510...

List price on a P99 is 439.00-ish

9mm is different than .40

Found these on some sort of wacked Japanese website, but hey, it works...thank you Google...



Not too sure what else to tell you...start doing some research. All the info is on the web. Start there become better informed. Then ask some more detailed questions.

Do not buy a gun till you know more.

[Hollis]

357 sig is call a signature round, a sig arms developed round and put their name on it. It suppose to copy the ballistics of a 357 Mag. It is like a 9mm Super mag, it uses the 9mm bullet (0.355) in a bottleneck 40 S&W case.

Neat thing about it, you can convert many of the 40 S&W to 357 Sig, by changing the barrels, about a $120.00 conversion.

[Futile Talisman]

Oh boy, where to start...

First of all, you can get a 1911 for the same price, more or less as P99...

You can pick up a 1911 for around 469 to 510...

List price on a P99 is 439.00-ish

9mm is different than .40

Found these on some sort of wacked Japanese website, but hey, it works...thank you Google...



Not too sure what else to tell you...start doing some research. All the info is on the web. Start there become better informed. Then ask some more detailed questions.

Do not buy a gun till you know more.

I am that noobish, Sig Arms Academy, qualified with the 226 courtesy of a MSP Major who let me shoot with guys.



Glock 19 was is/ my favorite, mass. has agood store that will sell pre-ban 9mm, refurbished and done correctly, the sig, was for the courses at sig arms.

P-22 yeah the ergonomics suck, but it is not banned in Mass, you serious about the good results

[Futile Talisman]

Hollis, you ever sleep?

[Hollis]

I never understood the die hards on 9mm, it is ballistically the same as 38 Special. The advantage of 9mm are the autos pistols and extended capacity mags over the 38 Sp wheel gun. 357 became the replacement to the 38 sp because of power.

1911, you got to love them but the autos are NOT the best carry for police. Sa/da autos are better. Leaving it cocked can allow dirt and stuff to fall in that space between the hammer and firing pin. Cocked and locked violates one of the first safety issues on gun, never trust the safety of a firearm, the only safety is the shooter.

With development of 40S&W, 41AE, etc, you have a better round than a 9mm in taking a person down.

As with everything there are trade offs, the bigger the round, the less rounds in a magazine, control becomes more of a issue, and some shooters get left behind. Plus there is added cost.

Muzzel breaks have really added new deminsions to BIG calibers, reduce recoil makes it more shooter friendly.

I have not heard much on 357 sig replacing any of the police side arms. I have heard it is a little trickey to reload. I guess I will find out, I have 2 40 S&W glocks that I bought 357 sig barrels for. Next it is, I need to get dies.

[abncougar]

yeah, been working on some research. keep coming up with some crazy websites and i don't put too much stock in wikipedia. thanks for the info though. i should just find a good NRA seminar to go to.

[Hollis]

Hollis, you ever sleep?

sort of, I nap... I never know when Chuck Norris will come by for coffee, I don't want to offend him.

[Futile Talisman]

yeah, been working on some research. keep coming up with some crazy websites and i don't put too much stock in wikipedia. thanks for the info though. i should just find a good NRA seminar to go to.

NRA and Charlie is good,

but Geezah, Durandal, Hoillis can give you all the info you need, don't rush, lurk their threads (it is free) ****ing encyclopeida

my0.02

FT