Reply With Quotehow about a S&W 22 Magnum if the 38 would be a bit too much? i think if its just for home protection a revolver just seems to be a better choice.Originally Posted by StukaJr
then again, fumbling around in the dark to load one would be a pain ..
lol
Thats kind of overboard. Dontcha think?
If my poor 85 yearold grandmother cant rack the slide of a 1911 or shoulder the 870, let alone control any of said recoil. While allergic to dogs she should just get up and move because the tuned S&W kit gun in .22, which she is very proficient with, just does not hack it?
Of course i agree that a .45 or 12ga is the ideal choice. Lets not limit ourselves to just them, not all people have access to the preferred tools.
@gaijin-kun: Got the same Ruger, put many a Trinity county grey squirrel in the stew pot. My favorite .22 revolver, but for some reason i never use my .22 mag cylinder.
@ bender: CCI stingers are some hot rounds that i use, dont know about +P.
old saying: Let ye who laff at the .22, be the first to step up and be shot with it, to prove that it is nothing to be taken seriously.
how about a S&W 22 Magnum if the 38 would be a bit too much? i think if its just for home protection a revolver just seems to be a better choice.
then again, fumbling around in the dark to load one would be a pain ..
You can pick them up cheap at gun shows and wouldn't take someone elderly to long to get speedy at reloading the wheel.
A .22 magnum would be a good choice, in my opinion. Practically the same (lack of) recoil as the .22 LR, and the ammo is still inexpensive. Plus, you get a little more punch.
Fork: I bet your Single-Six makes a mighty-fine squirrel gun.
trust me a .22 (stingers at that) is nothing to laugh at...agreed 100% gentlemen. My point is simple...handling a hand gun vs home defence are two very different excercises. As i said "assuming they are in good shape" and for sure some sort of training at least, get something that works...because the odd chance that they miss a bazooka wont do the job. Any avid shooter agrees that a pistol in anyones hands needs to fit, operation is easy depending on experience, ability to handle the caliber, etc. If you asked the same question about a car for "granny", i wouldnt suggest a supercharged v8...rather something that fits, and is practical from comfort, economics, and handlability. If she cant see...she cant drive, let alone pull a slide back on a .45 and take a shot thats going to save her life. Best bet...take granny and pops to the gun store and see what feels right in their hands. If they can manage all the features...if there are any...just make sure they get some training.
home defence vote still stands...although not for granny or pops. If their small minimum 38 revolver, or 9mm compact semi-auto (dont under estimate their abilities). If they cant walk, hear, see, and have arthritis, occassional dimensia or alzimers DONT give'em a gun.
"Sunday Post" senior shoots mailman and EMS units responding to a "supposed" accidental firearm discharge. Later reports find senior thought mailman was trying to break in. EMS takes fire from house as senior rattled by fear suspected they were coming back to try again.
Paxton Quigley is/was the Spokes women of Smith and Wesson. BTW I mention that you read HER book, not some article. Your responce was just BS. BTW your Profile says nothing about you or your qualification as home defense instructor.
Again, you are clueless. None of us are the same, None of us have the same experiences and skill level. Personal defense is every one's business though we may all take a different path. All inclusive statements do not do any one any good. There is no perfect personal defense plan for all possible scenario, That might just come do the fact, with in the combinations of how a incident happens, you will wind up dead.
I don't tell people what they should or should not do, they need to take on the responsibility of knowing what is out their in HD needs, Situational awareness and any training they need for what ever they choose to use.
Every body like to expound on their personal choices with out realizing their choices may not be suitable for another person. Other words, your technique may just fail another.
Best solution is to offer advice, list the pros and cons. Then the person decide. Not everyone is a steely eye killer, some people would not shoot anyone for any reason, or by the time they are pressed to do the deed, it is too late.
Single Six is a very fine pistol. There are tons of 22 pistols USED that need homes too and they are under the $300 range. I picked up a 1st High Standard (lever) 22, for about #200 with a extra bull barrel.
When your in a budget crunch, used can offer exceptional deals. You get more for less.
"Adopt a Gun today"
.22 magnum will not give substantial increase in power than .22 LR in short barreled weapons, it is not designed to do that. You'll get more bang and blinding muzzle flash, but that is about it.
No you're clueless and a ****
You're one more BS post away from being done here full stop retard. Pull your head in, learn some situational awareness and perhaps have a read of the forum rules.
agreed. A HKp2000sk in 9mm might be their ticket
After reading all the suggestions here, I'm going to go with what I said originally. Get a wheel gun / revolver.
When something goes bump in the night, the said elderly person might not have the knowhow or the ability to rack one back and chamber a round or drop the safety, if the gun has one. Add to that a light trigger pull and you could further compound the situation.
Picking up a wheel gun will give them a sense of assurance that what is in their hand is tasked to do the job. It won't be polymer, it will be heavy and metal. The recoil of the .22 will be manageable for male or female regardless of age. Also, if a miss should occur, you won't have to worry about hitting little Jimmy who was sleeping next door, or across the hall at the condominium.
The S&W 317 or the S&W 351 might be worth a look.
Mate, this raises a big red flag. 20 yards is not self-defence. I'm not a lawyer but perhaps Laconian can comment on US legal precedents on home defence.
Massad Ayoob has a great book called "In the Deadliest Extreme". It deals with righteous defensive shootings and the legal aftermath. A must read for LEOs and armed home defence types.
LRPV, I am far, very far from a Ayoob fan, IMHO he over sales himself.
20 yards is 60 ft Appox, depends on where you live. He did some serious bad mouthing of wheel guns some time back.
I rather read Paxton Quigley.
I'm not in his fan club, I just like and appreciate that he has lead the charge in educating those that carry arms as civilians on the criminal and civil legal aftermath of shootings. After the shots fired and the media get their story the defender still has a lot to endure.
We don't allow firearms for self-defence in Australia, but if you happen to be cleaning your shottie at the time of a home invasion...
Our courts would almost certainly balk at a shooting over 20 yards and question that the defender was at that time indeed in IMMEDIATE fear of life.
As for wheelguns, are they still made? ()
I've heard of Paxton Quigley but not read any of her work.
buddy of mine has a berreta .22 pistol, awesome little gun. scaled down version of the m92.
shoot likes a dream, especially with what we call "Blitzers" high velocity hollowpoints.
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