Rhodesian Bush War Phtotographs

[vor033]

Photo 2 & 3 are from the RLI disbandment parade in 1980. Not sure about photo 1?

Cheers!

Thanks for the info

[TOW]

I would like to read som more about the bushwars in Southern Africa, would anyone happen to know any good books about the subject that I could order from Amazon?

[Skukuza]

Ok men.
Pic request/search please.
Am trying to find the pic of a troopie with a caty round his neck, fot taking birds, lizards etc when on patrol.
Not sure what regiment its from, could be Scouts or RLI.
Many thanks.

[Skukuza]

I would like to read som more about the bushwars in Southern Africa, would anyone happen to know any good books about the subject that I could order from Amazon?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss?...an+war&x=0&y=0
All you ever needed right here.

[jeff jedi]

I would like to read som more about the bushwars in Southern Africa, would anyone happen to know any good books about the subject that I could order from Amazon?

On Rhodesia and the war I suggest you get :
War diaries of andre dennison by rt wood,
Selous scouts top secret war by Reid Daily and peter Stiff
Chimurenga by paul moorcroft and maclaughling
The elite by barbra cole,
sabotage and torture also by b cole,
Contact one and two (2 books) paul moorcroft.
for good pics- hand drawn - faces of war by peter badcock


That doesnt put the war and the lies and betrayal into context but is a start.
Political books on Rhodesian war:
I suggest you go back to the beginning:
Start with Sunshine and Storm by f.c selous - this is collectors item - maybe a reference library will help.
Revolt in southern Rhodesia by t.o. ranger
Our guns our votes by Martin meredith
The great betrayal by Ian smith
Mugabe by david smith and colin Simpson
Cry zimbabwe by peter stiff
The struggle for zimbabwe by davis martin and phyllis johnson
The past is another country by martin meredith
the downfall of lobengula by wills and collinridge
with plumber in matabeleland by sykes
The 96 rebellion - bsaco reports

if you get through that and want more email me on this site.
As i was in the war i havent bothered with more war books.
Other can assist. Look at rhodie web sites.
Books written now dont give the full context of why there was a war and the causes thats why i suggest you read lots of history books. They never taught us Rhodies the true history of our country at school. we actually learnt friggin english history - fat lot og ggod that was.
Cheers
jeff jeddi

[vulcanxm603]

I would like to read som more about the bushwars in Southern Africa, would anyone happen to know any good books about the subject that I could order from Amazon?

other good sites for books are:
http://www.memoriesofrhodesia.com

http://www.booksofzimbabwe.com

Most titles are shown at these sites and then you can see if it is available at Amazon.

[One Of The Few]

. They never taught us Rhodies the true history of our country at school. we actually learnt friggin english history - fat lot og ggod that was.
Cheers
jeff jeddi

Ain't that the truth - spent most of our "history" lessons concentrating on the real important stuff like "The battle of Hastings 1066" etc. Can't begin to tell you all how important that has been in my life...
Mind you... our history teacher at high school was a rugby boff - all we had to do was get him started on rugby and we could pack away our books - perhaps that's why I missed out on the Rhodie history.

[scottysonfire]

Hi everyone

This is my first post.

I also have a keen interest in the Rhodesian Bush War (my parents were from Rhodesia, my Father was an Aloutte 3 pilot).

Does anyone have any info about the various grenades that were used by the RLI, SAS and Selous Scouts? HE grenades, Phosphorous, smoke etc...

Im trying to figure out what grenades are attached to the webbing of these two soldiers in these pictures.

Any information anyone could give would be greatly appreciated.

Scott Newman

[Skukuza]

Most munitions of this kind were of South African origin, suffice to say that the Rhodesian army made good use of weapons and equipment captured from the terrs.
However not sure of the types of grenades except, HE,WP and fragmentation were inuse as well as the various types of smoke.

[rhodtpr]

Hi everyone

This is my first post.

I also have a keen interest in the Rhodesian Bush War (my parents were from Rhodesia, my Father was an Aloutte 3 pilot).

Does anyone have any info about the various grenades that were used by the RLI, SAS and Selous Scouts? HE grenades, Phosphorous, smoke etc...

Im trying to figure out what grenades are attached to the webbing of these two soldiers in these pictures.

Any information anyone could give would be greatly appreciated.

Scott Newman

They both look like smoke grenades (can't see the writing on them) but I am willing to bet M970 White Phos which did double duty for position indicating and clearing caves, trenches etc.

[KeithNell]

The grenades issued to Rhodesian soldiers were fragmentation. Smoke canisters and flares were issued to identify positions. No gook grenades were issued - considered too unreliable. Phos grenades were rifle fired type grenades - not hand held.

[jbmick]

Thanks for the all the comments!

Running low on stuff, I can't even remember where on the web I found these. Hope they're not too off-topic, and sorry for the low resolution.

One is a Rhodesian farm girl getting some training on a FN FAL rifle. Nice daisy duke shorts!

Another is the Swedish actress Britt Ekland. Apparently she was willing to do a film on location in Rhodesia in the 70's despite sanctions, and took a few pictures in Rhodesian camo, "for the boys," as it were.

The third is a complete mystery to me (being an American.) The troops are gathered around a radio, obviously listening to the woman whose picture has been put in, but I have no idea who she is, presumably a Rhodesian singing or radio personality.

The female in the picture is Sally Donaldson. She was the forces sweetheart and used to do interviews of the troops and play the recordings and popular music on the radio station RBC. The program was called "Forces Requests".

[rhodtpr]

The grenades issued to Rhodesian soldiers were fragmentation. Smoke canisters and flares were issued to identify positions. No gook grenades were issued - considered too unreliable. Phos grenades were rifle fired type grenades - not hand held.

Keith, sorry to disagree but White Phos grenades were issued to troopies in both hand thrown (M970) and rifle grenade (42 Zulu) versions - I was issued and used them both.

Check your SAS course notes and Sgt. Haynes.

Cheers!

[KeithNell]

Sorry folk - been stoking up my memory ......you are correct! Senior moment.....

[scottysonfire]

Thanks for the reply guys, I appreciate it.

So just to clarify - are you saying the grenades in the above picture are smoke grenades?

To my eyes they look a lot smaller than the smoke grenades Ive seen here in South Africa. Is this the case? Were they relatively small?

Does anyone have a pic of what a Rhodesian phos. grenade looked like?

thanks again

Scott