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Dear Keith,Originally Posted by rhodtpr
And when you visit the plinth - he is still remembered.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Was there 2 weeks ago......for the annual memorial service.......
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Last edited by jeff jedi; 11-29-2009 at 06:28 PM.
So you sit in the comfort and safety of your living room judging what those in harms way on todays battlefields do based of some ten second sound bites take out of context and put together by unknowledgable biased ****heads?When I see the footage of their actions in current day conflicts it confirms my understanding. That is my opinion and I dont mean to be degrading to anyone currently serving. I have seen ample "sloppy" soldiering on CNN, BBC etc.
That clearly demonstrates your complete fucking idiocy. Not to mention your massive conceit and arrogance.
Ever gone face to face with any of them and given them the 'benefit' of you understanding and opinion?
Of course you wouldn't have. You're too gutless by half.
Yes you were. Here's your original statement.
Have the guts to own up to your own words.
Seem's to be a common theme in this thread, bitter ex-rhodesians denigrating other countries soldiers.
All the while hiding behind the safety of their keyboards.
That is highly offensive and will not be tolerated.
Here's the deal, you can both apologise and retract/edit your posts or you can both take a long break. You've got twelve hours.
As for the rest of you, refrain from discussing anything other than what directly pertains to the threads title.
If you're unable to do that then I'll lock the thread.
Hey guys, I think the moderator has laid down the law for this website...let's get back on track.
It has been a good exercise for me and I don't want to see the end of it. There have been some great postings and info shared that has helped me put the conflict in a better perspective.
Cheers!
In the interests of this thread I apologise unreservedly for my contribution in taking this thread off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the Rhodesian War. And I am happy to retract any comments in that tangential contribution that others find offensive.
NT was it neccessary to use your one way position of authority behind a keyboard to use foul language to personally insult a contributor like JJ instead of moderating objectively and professionally. I don't know what history you have with JJ but it seems there might be a long one.
I won't be contributing here anymore if that's the unprofessional level at which this thread is moderated and thats not my loss.
Do that, just as I told you to in my previous post.
As opposed to you using your one way position of authority behind a keyboard to use personal opinion and invective to personally insult and denigrate former and serving soldiers like the SAS instead of employing your supposed experience objectively and professionally?
Try reading Post #2169, that demonstrates the fact that there is a general understanding by the rest of the membership of how your actions are viewed in the context of this website.
jeff jedi has been warned recently in this thread about his attitude and has referenced it previously in his posts. His choice to ignore the direction given to him.
Yours also.
Seeing as by rights you and your friend should be on a multi week suspension for off topic posting and flaming, the fact that you're threatening to through a tantrum and take your ball and go home is pretty empty.
But by all means, go for it.
Certainly I seriously apologise for offending anyone. I also reserve my rights of the freedom of expression and defending other salacious comments about the
Rhodesian forces. Thats called democracy. Its also my opinion. Thats what made Rhodesia great in its independance and not cow towing to anyone.
Play to the rules guys.....if you dont want to then you'll have to depart.
NT,
In some defence of these guys I was surprised at your usage of foul language. No one else uses it and you are taking advantage of your position. We all got to play by the rules....even moderators.
Not here you don't. No one does. This isn't a democracy, it never has been. It's a privately owned website.
That's the reason why various comments in this thread over time denigrating Rhodesia and the bush war have been deleted and the posters suspended/banned, as one of many examples.
Can't have it both ways.
From who, some unsubstantiated comment by an individual? Gleaned from a site well known for it's inaccuracies?
And rather than attack that individual in direct response, you attack an entire institution?
Pull your head in. You were looking for an excuse and you felt that gave you one.
It's not the first time we've heard about how great the Rhodesian armed forces were and how no one will ever be as good as them. We're over it. You need to get over it too.
As above, this privately owned website is not a democracy. That is clearly laid out in the user agreement and rules.
I'm not even going to bother with the "cow towing" comment.
That's the sequence of events when someones out of line. A cordial warning or two, then if that is not heeded something stronger is employed to gain their attention.
Unfortunately I don't have crayon font loaded into my computer so I'm somewhat limited in my mediums of communication with some people.
Next time I won't bother, I'll just infract and suspend the **** out of them, as I could quite comfortably do given the rules they've consistently broken and ignored. That make you feel better?
At the end of the day if you can't handle some harsh language, particularly when it's well directed, then the military in any way, shape or form will be a difficult place for you.
As for the rules, I answer to the admin. This being an autocracy and all.
JJ, NT is right in that this is a private website and all rights are reserved, we were off line and needed to be brought back on line though I take your point that there is a fine line between moderating and censorship. If I look all the way back through the thread it has been kept pretty clean and too the point which indicates good moderation.
NT I am sure you know the differences in authority between a moderator and a contributor. Contibutors have non and Moderators have it all. I am as thick skinned as the next guy when it comes to foul language or indeed criticism of any sort but if the moderator uses foul language to personally insult a contributor who has alledgedly been offensive to others why is that moderator any less offensive than the offensive contributor? Who moderates the moderator? Its a case of lead by example but maybe you were having a bad day? Was not aware that Kornivag was a moderator.
Key thing is this is a good thread and is popular with a lot of the website's customers, both inhibiting contributors and allowing offensive contributors alike will just kill it. Lessons learnt lets move on......
See, there's the problem. There's nothing 'alleged' about it.
Two other members brought it up before I did. Try reading through the thread again.
But it wouldn't matter would it?
You're quite happy to judge others. But not at all comfortable being judged yourself.
Funny that.
Not the members. You think i or any other moderator can please 40,000 + members?
You think we'd care to try?
My day is fine.
As bad as you apparently feel, yours would have been worse if i'd suspended you and your mate for a couple of months rather than use "harsh" language, no?
Something to think about.
From NT:
That's the sequence of events when someones out of line. A cordial warning or two, then if that is not heeded something stronger is employed to gain their attention.
Unfortunately I don't have crayon font loaded into my computer so I'm somewhat limited in my mediums of communication with some people.
Next time I won't bother, I'll just infract and suspend the **** out of them, as I could quite comfortably do given the rules they've consistently broken and ignored. That make you feel better?
At the end of the day if you can't handle some harsh language, particularly when it's well directed, then the military in any way, shape or form will be a difficult place for you.
As for the rules, I answer to the admin. This being an autocracy and all.[/QUOTE]
GGP:
Fair enough....one rule for some, etc.
No probs about handling bad language.....we expect better of the moderators s'all.
Anyone got some pictures to post?
Rhodesian Air Force
How about an un-official Air Force 2010 calendar
Last edited by nhbnhb69; 11-30-2009 at 06:04 AM.
The venerable Venter speaks
Here ol' Al unloads a few months after the Moog moves in.
Most of the photos in the piece have been posted before, some many times, but it might be worth a look.
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