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Thread: The F-4 Phantom II Turns 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaplanr View Post
    Happy Birthday Phantom.


    Just saw the photo is backwards. ;0
    Man, it's only ten years younger than Israel.

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    I've made those myself last summer:






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    Quote Originally Posted by lightfire View Post
    I've made those myself last summer:


    I like this one; looks like a smiley face with a huge ballsack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked_hind View Post
    Yup, I think you guys are now the only ones who still use F-4Ds! I think that's that's pretty astonishing.
    The Iranian Air Force loves its old American planes. And so do I! Quality stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pars View Post
    I like this one; looks like a smiley face with a huge ballsack.
    HAHAH LOL HAHAHAHA man i needed a good laugh.

    I have very basic knowledge but how is the F-4 in low and high speed maneuverability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kypchak TURK View Post
    I have very basic knowledge but how is the F-4 in low and high speed maneuverability?
    Having been designed as a naval fighter, I would guess that the F-4 had fairly decent low-speed handling, at least for its size. However, my understanding is that it was never particularly agile, and smaller aircraft could very easily outmaneuver it in a turning battle. In Vietnam, F-4 drivers relied more on the power of its engines, which allowed them to disengage at will from any fight by simply out-accelerating and out-climbing their opponent, then reengage under more favorable circumstances.

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    Always been one of my favorites! It's proof that a brick with wings can fly.

    Beautiful beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratamacue View Post
    Having been designed as a naval fighter, I would guess that the F-4 had fairly decent low-speed handling, at least for its size. However, my understanding is that it was never particularly agile, and smaller aircraft could very easily outmaneuver it in a turning battle. In Vietnam, F-4 drivers relied more on the power of its engines, which allowed them to disengage at will from any fight by simply out-accelerating and out-climbing their opponent, then reengage under more favorable circumstances.
    I am guessing that the High speed maneuverability is probably excellent on a F-4 right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by throwback View Post
    Let's not forget the black ******* bunny scheme of VX-4.
    Gotta love the all black scheme:

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    Wonderful beast of a plane.

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    Great thread!
    I was assigned to this squadron while I was in,I do miss looking at that mountain range in the mornings....another time,another place
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    Kaneohe MCAS!
    Woot! They were still flying them when I was stationed there.

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    Search John Boyd and his E-M Theory.

    His findings there lead to the development of the F-16 and F-15 that both had a large wing area. The larger wing area decreased wing loading thus making the 15/16 much more maneuverable at low speeds. However they have more trade as a trade-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I can't think of a name View Post
    Search John Boyd and his E-M Theory.

    His findings there lead to the development of the F-16 and F-15 that both had a large wing area. The larger wing area decreased wing loading thus making the 15/16 much more maneuverable at low speeds. However they have more trade as a trade-off.
    Yeah but doesn't the F-4 have a large wing area?
    Last edited by Karaahmetoglu; 05-29-2008 at 11:04 AM.

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    Hellenic Air Force

    338 Interceptor-Bomb Squadron "Aris" (Mars)

    339 All Weather Squadron "Aeas" (Ajax)

    348 Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron "Matia" (Eyes)


    A 337 M aircraft carrying a tow target. 337 M now operates the F-16 Block 52+


    F-4E, PI.2000.
    Upgraded aircraft of 339 M, carrying 4 Sidewinders and 4 AMRAAM's



    Abbreviations:
    M-->Squadron
    MDB-->Interceptor-Bombardment Squadron
    MPK-->All-Weather Squadron
    MTA-->Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron
    PM-->Battle Wing

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