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Thread: The F-4 Phantom II Turns 50

  1. 05-28-2008 #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by I can't think of a name View Post
    Search John Boyd and his E-M Theory.

    His findings there lead to the development of the F-16 and F-15 that both had a large wing area. The larger wing area decreased wing loading thus making the 15/16 much more maneuverable at low speeds. However they have more trade as a trade-off.
    Yeah but doesn't the F-4 have a large wing area?
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    Hellenic Air Force

    338 Interceptor-Bomb Squadron "Aris" (Mars)

    339 All Weather Squadron "Aeas" (Ajax)

    348 Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron "Matia" (Eyes)


    A 337 M aircraft carrying a tow target. 337 M now operates the F-16 Block 52+


    F-4E, PI.2000.
    Upgraded aircraft of 339 M, carrying 4 Sidewinders and 4 AMRAAM's


    Abbreviations:
    M-->Squadron
    MDB-->Interceptor-Bombardment Squadron
    MPK-->All-Weather Squadron
    MTA-->Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron
    PM-->Battle Wing
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    It's a damn fine aircraft. Comparing it with the other planes of its era makes it seem like it was way ahead of its time. Advanced avionics, huge load of varying state of the art weaponry, adaptability for different roles and future upgrades, and impressive performance. It set an example for all the future combat aircraft that are in service now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightfire View Post
    Still, I can't believe, that Germany uses them as interceptors
    German F-4s were upgraded in the early 90s with APG-65 radar, AMRAAM capability, new RWR, new IFF and improved avionics. Despite their age, they remain capable and credible fighters.

    Last month, German F-4s even downed a least one French Rafale in mock combat during exercice "Frisian Flag". Not bad for a 50 years old design... Pic of the "Rafale Eater" (look on the air intake).



    Btw, there is a good article about Luftwaffe F-4Fs in this month's issue of Air Forces Monthly titled "German Phantoms - Still Going Strong".
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    How many F-4's where downed buy Rafales I hope non.
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    How many nations are still flying the F-4? I know the US uses them as drome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefjavier View Post
    How many nations are still flying the F-4? I know the US uses them as drome.
    Turkey, Greece, Germany, Iran, Japan, Egypt.
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    ^^ you forgot SK

    Quote Originally Posted by chefjavier View Post
    How many nations are still flying the F-4? I know the US uses them as drome.
    8 countries are still flying the F-4 :

    Germany
    Greece
    Turkey
    Egypt
    Iran
    South Korea
    Japan
    USA (drones and heritage flight)
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Max- View Post
    ^^ you forgot SK



    8 countries are still flying the F-4 :

    Germany
    Greece
    Turkey
    Egypt
    Iran
    South Korea
    Japan
    USA (drones and heritage flight)
    Who are the best pilots out those countries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefjavier View Post
    Who are the best pilots out those countries?
    Oh for fuck's sake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratamacue View Post
    Oh for fuck's sake...
    My thoughts exactly...


    I dont want this thread to turn into a pissing contest so lets forget chefjavier's post...



    Nice pics, Clearday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Max- View Post
    My thoughts exactly...

    Nice pics, Clearday.
    Not at all Max...

    More Turkish Phatom Photos;




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratamacue View Post
    Oh for fuck's sake...
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    German phantoms...from the good old days

    Recce


    Interceptor


    Wild Weasel Phantom


    And everytime worth seeing: Clip of the last flight day of then-71st Fighter Wing's commodore (mid-80s)

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ApM_f-jBlP0&feature=related
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