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    Sergei
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    Fire hedgehog

    This was the name of a system to mow down infantry. It consisted of 88 PPSH guns located in the Tu-2 bomb bay.





    The system is lowered for reloading.
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    Wow, Ive never ever seen anything like this b4 from WW2 era, that's certainly a rather amazing concept for the time.. what would the firing time be? 10secs? then fly back for reload?

    thanks for the pics
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    Never heard of this weapon. Very interesting and thanks very much for sharing.
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    Is this right? PPSH fires 900 rounds per minute X 88 guns = 79200 rounds per minute, wow
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    Nice find, was it ever deployed? The 7.62x 25mm pistol cartridge leads me to wonder just how low the pilot had to fly.
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    Whoa.. certainly wouldn't mind to see a testfire
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    Wow. Thats pretty overkill

    i remember reading that the germans back then installed a similar mechanism on fighters like the 109ers to destroy allied bombers.
    dont think it were THAT much guns installed, but it was similar.
    the guns faced upwards and were activated through foto-cells.
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    Yeah. The Nazis also had a plane that flew up over bomber formations and shot rockets into them from rocket pods. I want to say the ME-163 Komet, but I can't find anything to say that it was.

    LRPV, I agree with you, but when things fall from the sky then gain speed. Anyway, that thing is neat looking. I wouldn't mind seeing it in action.
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    the komet had only guns afaik.

    the rocketplane with the rocketpod in the nose was the natter.
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    Woah... it would suck to be underneath one of those things...

    Wonder if it was as noisy as a Phalanx shoot? 88 SMGs all at once - nasty!
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    I know the Natter had rockets in the nose, but didn't it dive down on top if its targets? I am pretty sure it did, not like th plane I am thinking of.
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    Nice post, Sergei. That's certainly a variant of the Tu-2 I had not seen before!

    Reminds me of all the things the Luftwaffe tried with the Henschel Hs 129--multiple recoiless rifles, 75mm cannon, and I think they even experimented with a mortar system.

    Many thanks for the info!
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    Impressive, thanks Sergei!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeezee View Post
    Yeah. The Nazis also had a plane that flew up over bomber formations and shot rockets into them from rocket pods. I want to say the ME-163 Komet, but I can't find anything to say that it was.

    LRPV, I agree with you, but when things fall from the sky then gain speed. Anyway, that thing is neat looking. I wouldn't mind seeing it in action.
    Terminal velocity. Look it up.
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