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    India to seal big-ticket military deals


    Indian Air Chief Marshal Fali Major

    NEW DELHI (AFP) — India said on Friday it was gearing up to seal military contracts worth billions of dollars including a massive fighter jet deal which has prompted a dogfight among global aeronautical giants.
    India's move to buy 126 fighter jets worth 12 billion dollars was in its final stages with evaluations of six shortlisted aircraft set to begin next year, Air Chief Marshal Fali Major told a news conference.
    "A number of projects now are reaching a conclusion," Major said in New Delhi, referring to contracts due to be awarded.
    "The Indian air force is in a state of transformation and we are on the way to modernisation," he said.
    US-based Boeing and Lockheed Martin, Russian MiG, Sweden's Saab and French Dassault are vying for the world's richest fighter jet deal in 15 years.
    Industry sources said Lockheed Martin's F-16 or Boeing's Super Hornet have already emerged as frontrunners.
    The military official's statements came a day after the US Senate endorsed a US-India nuclear deal, removing all hurdles for the resumption of civilian nuclear trade between the two countries after more than three decades.
    Experts say the deal will also open doors for the military to buy technology which had been banned for export to India after the US slapped sanctions on the country following its 1998 nuclear weapons tests.
    US defence contractors have been lobbying hard to secure deals with India.
    Major's comments came less than a week after India and its main arms exporter Russia extended their military ties by 10 years with the sale of 347 tanks and talks on collaboration on a fifth-generation fighter jet.
    Most of the big-ticket hardware from countries including Britain, France, Israel, Russia and the United States is destined for the technology-hungry air force.
    "The Indian air force needs the capability to support India's resurgent growth and so we are phasing out old equipment with new hardware," Major said.
    The air force will also buy six Hercules transport planes from Lockheed Martin for 968 million dollars and will begin final talks for six air-to-air refuelling planes with either Airbus or the Russians this month, Major said.
    The first of two Israeli Phalcon Airborne Warning and Control System radar systems worth 1.1 billion dollars would reach India in January, other officials said.
    Major, meanwhile, also said India had begun upgrading its military installations and airbases on the border with China to counter any possible threat from its giant Asian neighbour.
    "A comprehensive infrastructure development programme has been undertaken in the northeast where roads and advanced landing grounds are being beefed up," he said.
    "By 2009 we would have our Sukhoi-30 multi-role fighter jets deployed on the eastern sector," Major said as other officials said military engineers were working at high speed to fortify the Sino-Indian border.
    The Indian military says China has also built strategic roads and air fields close to disputed frontier regions.
    The two populous countries which have fought a brief but a bitter border war in 1962 still have territorial disputes that not been resolved despite 13 rounds of high-level talks.
    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g7jr4SRqESLut4J0E_j26mu4ZpTA

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    Helicopter gunships, soldiers attack rebels in Congo


    With Indian Air Force helicopter gun- ships killing hundreds of rebels and infantry combat vehicles pun-ching through rebel positions, India’s largest-ever deployment of soldiers on foreign soil has taken on a muscular new turn in the heart of Africa.

    The Democratic Republic of Congo's internal conflict — whose resolution is a test case of strong global intervention — has led an Indian brigade under the United Nations mission (known by its French acronym MONUC) to rework its peacekeeping strategy from a velvet glove to an iron
    fist.

    The first signs of the changed Indian posture were visible late September in Masisi in the collapsing eastern province of North Kivu, the epicentre of the conflict between rebels and government troops. UN North Kivu brigade commander Bipin Rawat, who learnt his trade in Kashmir and India's northeast, ordered Mi-25 and Mi-35 attack helicopters of the IAF to strafe positions tightly held by the private army of rebel general Laurent Nkunda.

    The underutilised Russian-made IAF gunships fired a salvo of rockets that killed hundreds of Nkunda's rebels. The offensive sorties allowed ill-equipped and ill-trained Congolese government troops drive back rebels who had come menacingly close to seizing Masisi, which is on a vital road axis some 80 km from North Kivu’s capital Goma.

    Indian Army infantry combat vehicles, used only for a cosmetic show of force thus far, rumbled into life with machineguns blazing and cannon punching through rebel defences in the flashpoints of Tonga and Kanyabayonga where Indian posts are located.

    “In the past one or two years, some degree of passivity has seeped into our operations,” Brigadier Rawat told the Hindustan Times. He said UN rules allowed the use of force in specific scenarios.

    “We’ve decided to fight with our equipment,” said Rawat, who took charge of the Indian brigade this August.

    There are now more than 4,500 Indian troops with the UN’s costliest peacekeeping mission in the Congo, a sprawling (the size of western Europe), dangerous and notoriously unstable country formerly known as Zaire. It was here that heavyweight boxing champion Muhammed Ali knocked out George Foreman 34 years ago in a world-famous bout called “Rumble in the Jungle”.

    The Congo is home to half of all Africa’s forests and has enough diamonds, gold and copper to make it the continent's richest country. But it has come to represent the worst of Africa: most of its 60 million people live on less than $1 a day and its women and children have suffered almost unimaginable ****** violence.

    It was first ravaged in the late 19th century by Belgium's King Leopold, who ran it as a personal colony. Later, one of Africa’s worst dictators, Mobutu Sese Seko — backed for strategic reasons by the West — famously squandered public money on Concorde charters to Disneyworld and million-dollar shopping sprees to Brussels and Paris.

    After Seko was deposed 11 years ago, the Congo descended into bloody patchwork of war and butchery that claimed the lives of 3 million Congolese and at its height embroiled nine countries. To growing criticism of its irrelevance, the UN then launched its mission to stabilise the Congo, with 2006 seeing the first democratic elections in 40 years. The Congolese turned out in millions to vote in Joseph Kabila as president.

    Rawat said his message is that Indian troops “will walk the extra mile to protect the Congolese people”, whose mistrust of MONUC has grown manifold in recent weeks. “It is not a pretty picture to see an Indian soldier, tested in the hottest of fires, hunker down in a jeep even as unruly crowds pelt stones,” said Rawat. “It’s happening here. Locals are asking what difference has MONUC made.”

    That changed when an 8,000-strong crowd recently took shelter at a 10 Assam base in Masisi when the Congolese army traded heavy machine gun and mortar fire with the rebels.
    The crowd clapped as IAF attack helicopters fired rockets. Rawat said his soldiers would resist “the temptation to go over the top at all costs”.

    That’s because all rebel groups are signatories to a January 2008 peace accord, and the key mission of troops is to bring them to the negotiating table.

    India has a long history of deploying troops in the Congo: the first Indian blue berets (the colour used on UN duty) served from 1960 to 1965. It is the only UN mission where an Indian soldier — Captain G.S. Salaria — was awarded the Param Vir Chakra. He died in 1961, trying to save the Katanga province from falling to rebels.
    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/n...p?newsid=10335
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    India to reactivate another strategic airbase on China border


    With incidents of transgressions on the unresolved Sino-Indian border on a high, India is set to reopen another strategic airfield in Eastern Ladakh that will allow rapid induction of troops to the region.
    Work on reviving the Fukche Advanced Landing Ground (ALG), situated at an altitude of 4,200 m barely three kilometers away from the Line of Actual Control, is almost complete and the first fixed wing aircraft is expected to land at the airbase within a month.
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/In...-border/369051
    Come on chinese we are waiting for ur agression........

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    Indigenous AIP submarine in 4 to 5 years: DRDO


    KOCHI: The Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO) hopes to develop an indigenous Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) submarine in four to f
    ive years, chief controller, Research and Development, Dr A Sivathanu Pillai has said.

    Research and development work was going on at the DRDO Naval Material Research Laboratory (NMRL) in Mumbai to develop hydrogen-based fuel cells for the diesel-powered submarines, Dr Pillai told mediapersons.

    "NMRL already has developed number of fuel cells," Pillai, who was at Trikkakara near here in connection with a national symposium at the Naval Physical and Oceanographic Laboratory (NPOL), said.

    Diesel power submarines will have to surface everyday for air, while the hydrogen based technology is new and presently not operational anywhere in the world. "It is being developed by one or two countries. We are also going to develop that technology and that will be installed in the diesel submarines," he said.

    The hydrogen based technology could enable submarines operate for long duration, may be 20 to 25 days under water, he said.

    To a query, he said while Pakistan got AIP developed by France last month under the deal to purchase the Agosta submarines, India would be able to develop the technology indigenously.

    India may also go in for AIP system from France or some other countries for the six submarines that are being constructed at Mazgaon. "But, we are not interested in that system and want a better system that is based on hydrogen," Pillai said.
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I...ow/3557172.cms

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    World to see changed IAF in 10 yrs: chief


    Denying strongly the reports of armed forces defying government over the pay commission issues, the chief of Indian Air Force (IAF) has said that in a decade’s time, the face of the force would be completely changed with its modernisation programme going full steam. “The pace at which we (IAF) are going ahead with our modernisation plans, the world will see a very capable and different air force in seven to 10 years,” chief of the IAF, Fali Homi Major said during the annual media interaction ahead of the Air Force Day next week.

    As a precursor to this, the Indian Air Force plans to acquire 126 multi role combat aircrafts was on track with technical evaluation of the bids submitted by six contenders expected to be completed by this year end and the flight evaluation of the selected lot of aircraft early next year.

    The chief pointed out that the “The IAF’s endeavour is to launch on a growth profile, not just through acquisitions of new technology and equipment, but also through the way we operate, refining basic philosophy, doctrines, tactics and our war-fighting ways.”

    With the IAF in a continuous phase of modernisation, the chief pointed out that the air superiority Su-30 MKIs which are the most potent aircraft in the IAF, 230 of the platforms would join the fleet by 2014 with HAL trying to speed up licensed production of the Russian fighter.

    In response to a query he said that “We would like to increase the number of Sukhois produced to 23 from the current number of 15 aircraft a year. Hence, we have asked for speeding up the production. Every single effort is being made to increase production rates,” he said.

    Since plans are afoot to operate Sukhoi aircraft from the North Eastern states by end of 2009, modernising some select airfield in the region has started. “IAF is implementing a comprehensive infrastructure programme in the North-East for its select airfields,” Major said.
    http://www.financialexpress.com/news...-chief/369098/
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    LCA to be fitted with Israeli multi-mode radar


    BANGALORE: The indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas will, after years of delay, soon be fitted with its primary mission sensor, the multi-mode radar (MMR).
    P.S. Subramaniam, Programme Director, Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), the defence laboratory that is designing the LCA, told The Hindu that “airworthy units” of the Israeli – manufactured MMR would be arriving here early next week for integration into the aircraft. The Elta designed and developed MMR, Elta EL/M-2052 which will be an interim option since India is developing an indigenous one, has already undergone tests on the flight test bed and ground rig in Israel.
    One of the most crucial pieces of equipment on any fighter aircraft, the MMR determines the operational effectiveness of the machine, with no fighter aircraft being in a position to perform as one without an MMR.
    In the LCA the MMR’s primary role will be to detect and locate targets, process the information, lock on the target and pass this input to the mission computer. From the mission computer this information will be utilised by the pilot as he contemplates weapon release activity. The MMR will also create ground and contour maps when selected.
    The long delay in the arrival of the MMR has without doubt pushed the Rs.6,000-crore LCA programme back by many a year. Though initially ADA had intended to use the Ericsson Microwave Systems PS-05/A MMR, it was decided in the early 1990s to indigenously develop one.
    But the joint efforts by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (Hyderabad) and Electronics and Radar Development Laboratory (Bangalore) along with coordination from the Centre for Airborne Studies (CABS) failed to come up to expectations. This resulted in the ADA running weaponisation tests on the LCA with a weapon delivery pod, which is not a primary sensor, being forced to keep critical tests on hold.
    http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/03/stor...0356310900.htm

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    Damn i really miss Adux's posts.........

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    ^ Don't worry mate you're really doing a good job. Btw what are your thoughts about Indian army's role in Congo? It's been a long time since any large scale action by the Indian army on foreign soil.

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    yes mate, where u got these beauties? they are so good. can u tell me which excercise is this?
    I don't know of any exercise. You must be aware of National Geographic's reality show on Indian navy. You can find these pictures in Nat Geo India's website. I think National Geographic specially took these pictures for promotional purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raavan View Post
    Damn i really miss Adux's posts.........
    Same here - gone into reclusion again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAMAN View Post
    ^ Don't worry mate you're really doing a good job. Btw what are your thoughts about Indian army's role in Congo? It's been a long time since any large scale action by the Indian army on foreign soil.


    I don't know of any exercise. You must be aware of National Geographic's reality show on Indian navy. You can find these pictures in Nat Geo India's website. I think National Geographic specially took these pictures for promotional purposes.
    I think I read abt it in mp itself. I am in Singapore and dont hv access to Indian channels.

    And abt the actions in Congo - I am really surprised to c that our forces are engaging. All along I had this impression of our troops on UN missions as only Peace keepers who never engage in any fire fight. Really proud abt the change.

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    Indian and Chinese military meet at Bum La

    Saturday, October 04 2008 11:37(IST)

    Bum La (Indo-Chinese border), Oct 4: India and China added one more page in their growing bonhomie in the defence sector with both armies meeting at snow-clad Bum La in Arunachal Pradesh.

    The occasion was the 59th National Day of China on Wednesday, Oct 1, when the Chinese border troops opposite the Kameng Sector, invited their Indian counterparts to join their celebrations near Bum La in Arunachal's Tawang district. Border Personnel Meetings (BPMs) at Bum La are unique to the forces of the two emerging Asian giants along the Sino-India border. ''It is a vital platform for resolving local issues with a view to enhancing peace and tranquility in the Sector,'' said Brigadier Ashok Ambre, who led the Indian delegation.

    In the entire Sino-Indian border, such BPM take place only in Bum La and Nathu La of Sikkim. Interactions started initially with flag meetings and later transformed into the BPMs since May 1999. ''Since then it has become a regular event here,'' he said.

    The last meeting, at the ''Maitrey Sthal'' on August 15, was hosted by the Indian Army. It contributed significantly in further cementing mutual trust, confidence and friendship between the two countries.

    ''The Chinese have been reciprocating by inviting the Indians every year on their National Day,'' he said.

    This year the celebrations commenced with Chinese Delegation Leader Col Zheng Shu Seng welcoming the Indian Delegation Leader at the ''Heap of Stones'' in Bum La.

    This was followed by flag hoisting by the Chinese. The delegations interacted with an aim of furthering the growing trust and confidence between the two great nations. Both sides once again reaffirmed their resolve to strengthen friendship and maintain peace and tranquility along the border, Mr Ambre said.

    Families also accompany for this event. A programme was organised by the Chinese which depicted the rich cultural heritage of the country to all the Indian visitors.

    The Indian delegation was treated to a wide array of Chinese delicacies and gifts were exchanged. Several toasts were raised in each others' honour and prosperity. The most popular among them was the exchange of currencies between the Indian and Chinese soldiers.

    India have permanent defence installations right up to the border. On the other hand the Chinese ''Lee camp'' is deep interior and hence they set up a temporary structure for the function.

    UNI

    http://news.oneindia.in/2008/10/04/i...223101971.html

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    there are few thread in china's BBS about india's military strength , it seemed chinese not much care about it.i think the reason is that ,becuase many country in the world unfriendliness of china .but india not the same .there is "china threat" not"india threat " in the world.so china care others more than india .and india is more care china than others .
    it look like china is lonely ,in fact china always alone when his administration party is communism.so china don't care about "lonely" .

    as chinese i don't want say much . because UFO never attacked earth,so human is lonely and boring when no one to fight with.in our blood ,we all want to become more powerful ,we revere hero and want to be a hero since we were child.the power is mean we can do what we want do and get what we want .the hero is fighting for his motherland .
    human is animal in essence .when the world lose balance .the war is comeing .backwardness leaves you vulnerable to attack .in the past 150 year .china suffered pain and ignominy from imperialist state (also india).so china could not suffer this again .china ready all the time .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post

    i guess she says something like: make love nor war

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailun View Post
    in the past 150 year .china suffered pain and ignominy from imperialist state (also india) .
    Care to clarify this................and dont start ur Communist propaganda Bull**** here.

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    A bit unease to c the amount of money being spend on the armed forces now. Do v really hv that much money in our reserves? Do v hv any rough idea what the total cost of all these defense spending will be?

    may b I am just thinking too much...

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