Indian Defence and Strategic News Thread

[JBH22]

But hasn’t it become easier since the Indo-US nuclear deal to obtain technology?A. No. We are still victims of US denial regimes. Our labs are still on the “Entity List”. Technology denial continues. There is a big gap between American talk and action towards us.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/n...p?newsid=12501

[JBH22]

A contract for the procurement of 20 Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) in Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) configuration was signed with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) on March 31, 2006. The total contract cost is Rs. 2701.70 crore. Delay in LCA production is primarily due to refinements carried out in the development phase. A total of Rs. 1712.11 crore has been paid to HAL till December 31, 2009 for the LCA Programme. There was a delay in the development of LCA due to certain technical complexities and denial of critical technologies. Rs. 3301.78 crore was sanctioned for the development of LCA, which includes manufacture of eight numbers of Limited Series Production aircraft. Additional Rs. 2475.78 crore has been approved by the Government for LCA Phase-II programme.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/n...p?newsid=12502

[JBH22]

Analysts say it's vital India and Russia maintain good relations.Narendra Singh Sisodia, director-general of Institute for Defence Studies & Analyses, said, "We still have very strong cooperation in the nuclear field with the Russians. We are also getting submarines and aircraft carriers from them. So it is a signal that the Russians are completely committed to this ongoing relationship."Russia and India agreed to the outlines of a 10-year weapons deal last year, which is estimated to be worth more than 10 billion US dollars.

http://english.cctv.com/program/worl...9/104354.shtml

[JBH22]

Incidentally, Sikorsky is pushing forward its latest X2 technology, which is an aircraft that can fly at high speeds and can be scaled to serve a variety of machine requirements including commercial aircraft and escort aircraft. “We are still working on a proto type and we hope to fly by the end of the year,’’ he added.Explaining about the cabins for S-92 helicopters, he said, “We have transferred the technology and we intend to supply over three cabins by the end of the year to our production line in the US, who in turn, would be supplying to our global customers.’’

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/n...p?newsid=12503

[JBH22]

Till present, ANTONOV’s specialists completed issue of design documentation as for modernization of the Indian AN-32. The airplanes will be fitted with up-to-date equipment providing higher level of flight safety, including air collision avoidance system, ground proximity warning system, satellite navigation system, distance measuring equipment, upgraded radio altimeters, new radar with two multifunctional indicators, new oxygen system and improves seats for crew members. As a total, 25 positions of new equipment will be installed. As D.S.Kiva, General Designer, noted “achieved agreement on modernization of Indian AN-32s is the result of big preliminary work. Certainly, it is a very important step in strengthening of cooperation between our countries. Besides according to the contract thousands of people will be engaged in fulfillment of these works during more than 5 years”.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/n...p?newsid=12504

[JBH22]

Even without having flown the Gripen NG prototype, IAF pilots have been extremely impressed by the fighter’s capabilities. Besides superb avionics and superior flight performance, they say the Gripen NG can land on an 800-metre stretch of highway; and then refuel, rearm and take-off within 10 minutes. This allows each Gripen NG to fly far more sorties per day than any other aircraft today.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/n...p?newsid=12505

[JBH22]

NAIROBI (*******) - Indian navy commandos thwarted a suspected Somali pirate attack on the Greek bulk carrier Melina 1 off the Indian coast, East African maritime officials and the Indian navy said on Monday.Andrew Mwangura, of the East African Seafarers Assistance Programme, said the weekend attack about 200 nautical miles (370 km) west of India's Lakshwadeep islands closely resembled those of Somali pirates.

http://af.*******.com/article/topNew...6270HS20100308

[JBH22]

IAF is buying Augustawestland choppers for VIP's why doesn't it buy modified Dhruvs babus cannot travel in indian made choppers??

[Kunal Biswas]

IAF is buying Augustawestland choppers for VIP's why doesn't it buy modified Dhruvs babus cannot travel in indian made choppers??

Showoff's
At least they can provide men in Kashmir with descend Kevlar helmets and jackets!!

[Sancho78]

IAF is buying Augustawestland choppers for VIP's why doesn't it buy modified Dhruvs babus cannot travel in indian made choppers??

Yeah and MMS should use a home made Tata Nano right? Please man, don't let urself blind by pride, be realistic!
Protection, space, range and so on, just keep in mind that these AW101 replaces Mi 8 helicopters and not small Cheetah, Cheetal, or Chetak, or take a look at the brochures of both versions and you will understand the clear differences:

http://www.hal-india.com/helicopter/...20commuter.pdf

http://www.agustawestland.com/sites/...VVIP_small.pdf

[JBH22]

Yeah and MMS should use a home made Tata Nano right? Please man, don't let urself blind by pride, be realistic!
Protection, space, range and so on, just keep in mind that these AW101 replaces Mi 8 helicopters and not small Cheetah, Cheetal, or Chetak, or take a look at the brochures of both versions and you will understand the clear differences:

not NANO but there are other indian made cars though not in the same class as BMW or Mercedes but as a sign of patriotism they should attleast continue in the AMBASSADOR ,but i was talking about the choppers why can't they use the DHRUV its for travelling in INDIA.
it would be a good sign from the country's leadership

[Sancho78]

not NANO but there are other indian made cars though not in the same class as BMW or Mercedes but as a sign of patriotism they should attleast continue in the AMBASSADOR ,but i was talking about the choppers why can't they use the DHRUV its for travelling in INDIA.
it would be a good sign from the country's leadership

See that's what I don't understand, how can people put patriotism and pride for indigenous developments, above logic?
Once again, the Dhruv is a light to medium helicopter, Mi 8 and AW 101 are medium to heavy helicopter, so by simple logic the Dhruv can't replace the Mi 8!
Also they don't drive BMW, or MB to show off, but because these companies offer special, high protection versions of their normal cars. These are bullet, explosive and even gas prove, have run n flat tires and all kind of other features for the security of such Vips like our PM, or President. Do you really expect an Indian car could be anywhere close to these with the same capabilities?
That's why I said be realistic! It's good that our industry is developing and we can be proud of them, but as long as they can't offer the same quality and capability, especially in this important cases, it simply makes no sense to think about them.

[Kunal Biswas]

See that's what I don't understand, how can people put patriotism and pride for indigenous developments, above logic?
Once again, the Dhruv is a light to medium helicopter, Mi 8 and AW 101 are medium to heavy helicopter, so by simple logic the Dhruv can't replace the Mi 8!
Also they don't drive BMW, or MB to show off, but because these companies offer special, high protection versions of their normal cars. These are bullet, explosive and even gas prove, have run n flat tires and all kind of other features for the security of such Vips like our PM, or President. Do you really expect an Indian car could be anywhere close to these with the same capabilities?
That's why I said be realistic! It's good that our industry is developing and we can be proud of them, but as long as they can't offer the same quality and capability, especially in this important cases, it simply makes no sense to think about them.

Dhruv is a light chopper, Mi-8/17 medium and Mi-26 or Chinooks are heavy category..
What you dont get is those AW 101 would be in use of mainly small distance routes as for AW 101s (1,389 km) in India..
Dhruv is a good light class range 827 km, Minister usually use Aircrafts for long ranges 1000+ km, that is if you get them choppers or not!
Unavailability of Dhruv made MODs to purchase MI-8 for VVIPs use( Past )!

And my friend please don't underestimate us regarding our knowledge and manufacturing capability!
In India many cars and SUV capable of taking on BMW or any other in terms of protection!

1. AMBASSADOR is one
http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/military/6.htm


2. Armored Safari
http://defencesolutions-tatamotors.c...ed-safari.html

3. Mahindra Scorpio

Ballistic Specifications: • It provides protection against a 7.62 mm. x 51 NATO Ball (SLR) & 7.62 mm. x 39 (AK -47) from the front, sides and rear, at a 90 degree angle attack from a distance of 10 meters


• Its roof is protected against a 45-degree angle attack to the passenger compartment


Optional Features:
• Run flat system with tubeless tyres


• Ballistic carpet to provide 98% under belly protection against shrapnel Grenade No 36MK -1, 69.3 gt.TNT



http://www.mahindra.com/specialtybus...rm_scorvip.htm


What more protection u need??
Regarding presidents and prime minster Benz and BMW may represent class, But it certainly dont protect against Mine Blast of 10 Kgs TNT under Wheels 7 Kgs TNT under Hull!!!!, Which shows Any foreign Car and Indian Car comes under same category regarding protection of VVIPS ( Given specification above )

[Kunal Biswas]

Sikorsky bullish on India, eyes $500-m orders

Hyderabad: Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation is upbeat about its growth in India and is eyeing orders worth $500-million in the next 8-10 years. The company, a world leader in helicopter design, manufacturing and service, is already working on helicopter cabins and component manufacturing through a pact with Tata Advanced Systems to manufacture Sikorsky S-92 helicopter cabins in India from its greenfield facility at the aerospace and precision engineering special economic zone in Andhra Pradesh.
Scott Pierce, regional sales executive (Asia) said, “We are currently in talks and have participated in a few tenders with the Indian military system for providing high-performance and high-altitude copters which ideally refers to a single helicopter performing many services. This is specifically required by the Army and Navy personnel for doing multi-tasking activities.’’
The company is also planning to expand its R&D for the Indian military understanding the uneven terrain where helicopters are not designed for these types of high altitude and may manufacture helicopters in the country as well. Talks are also on with leading corporate houses to supply these high performance helicopters, he said, however, the discussions are still in the nascent stage.
Incidentally, Sikorsky is pushing forward its latest X2 technology, which is an aircraft that can fly at high speeds and can be scaled to serve a variety of machine requirements including commercial aircraft and escort aircraft. “We are still working on a proto type and we hope to fly by the end of the year,’’ he added.
Explaining about the cabins for S-92 helicopters, he said, “We have transferred the technology and we intend to supply over three cabins by the end of the year to our production line in the US, who in turn, would be supplying to our global customers.’’

http://www.bharatrakshak.com/NEWS/ne...p?newsid=12503

[Kunal Biswas]

$11 bn in the balance, a no-show by Gripen fighter

The high-voltage $11 billion contest to sell India 126 Medium Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MMRCA) is reaching the end of the trials phase in a blaze of potential controversy. Today, the last of the six contenders being evaluated by the Indian Air Force — the Swedish Gripen — will fly into Bangalore for trials. But Business Standard has learnt that the fighters that will touch down are not the ones Gripen International has offered: the JAS-39IN Gripen NG. Instead, two older-model Gripen-D fighters will arrive.

The Gripen NG, a light, agile, ultra-modern fighter built by Swedish aerospace giant Saab, has always been one of the hottest contenders in the fray. Saab’s default on the MoD’s trial directive, which lays down that the fighter being offered must be the one that comes for trials, will delight its rivals — Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Dassault, Eurofighter and MiG — since Gripen is now vulnerable to disqualification.

The arrival of the Gripen-D instead of the Gripen NG has a simple cause: the Swedish Air Force, having opted to buy the Gripen NG, has ordered a series of improvements on the Gripen NG prototype. With those under way, Sweden’s flight certification agency, SMV, has ruled that the prototypes require additional flight-testing in Sweden before the aircraft can be sent to India.

Confirming these developments, Gripen International’s Director India Eddy de la Motte told Business Standard, “The Gripen NG prototype cannot come just yet to India as it is required in Sweden for testing and evaluation by the Swedish Air Force which is interested in buying the fighter. Indian pilots have not yet flown the Gripen NG, but we will make sure that they get an opportunity at the very earliest.”

Sources close to the Gripen campaign say IAF pilots will be offered a chance to fly the Gripen NG during a visit to Sweden from April 6 to April 10. Gripen International will also ask for fresh dates for bringing the Gripen NG to India for trials.
Even without having flown the Gripen NG prototype, IAF pilots have been extremely impressed by the fighter’s capabilities. Besides superb avionics and superior flight performance, they say the Gripen NG can land on an 800-metre stretch of highway; and then refuel, rearm and take-off within 10 minutes. This allows each Gripen NG to fly far more sorties per day than any other aircraft today.
The IAF pilots who have visited the Gripen simulators in Sweden have also been impressed by its electronic warfare capabilities and by the training facilities on offer.
The Swedish MoD’s unexpected refusal to allow the Gripen NG to India for trials has blown the race wide open. From a clear front-runner in the eyes of the IAF, the Gripen NG’s very participation in trials now depends upon a decision to be taken by the IAF and the Indian MoD.

http://www.bharatrakshak.com/NEWS/ne...p?newsid=12505