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    #Rafale campaign team enlists PR mogul @DiliptheCherian's firm Perfect Relations to drive #MMRCA endgame story. Interesting! / @saurabhjoshi
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    PR mogul @DiliptheCherian, btw, was instrumental in Congress image building for 2004's dramatic general election victory. #Rafale #MMRCA
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    Correct. @pierrefitter @livefist Perfect Relations isn't just a PR outfit. They're very handy at lobbying too. #Rafale #MMRCA #Dassault

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    Air@Cosmos 2295, Jan 13



    Confidential section:

    Given to the very good feedback from SPECTRA during Harmattan which led the ADA to continue exploring this way, several dozen Rafale are now equipped with new electronic cards which boost their ELINT capabilities.
    (thxs Arthuro)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xav View Post
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    #Rafale campaign team enlists PR mogul @DiliptheCherian's firm Perfect Relations to drive #MMRCA endgame story
    Dilip Cherian
    A founder partner of Perfect Relations, Dilip Cherian is widely regarded as India's Image guru. Dilip is also a columnist and has devoted readers of his column which appear in several newspapers in various parts of the country. He is also a former editor of Business India (India's largest business magazine) and the Observer newspaper.

    http://www.perfectrelations.com/about-perfectrelations

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilip_Cherian

    Lobbying ...would mean that the final decision is still not made..

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    ..or that you want to change the given decision. Or reinforce one...
    rumors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S@ncho View Post
    http://www.ainonline.com/?q=aviation...s-new-contract


    Are there official notes about the per hour costs of Rafale in French forces and are there estimations about the possible reduction for the new versions (F3+)?
    Officially , we know the "Cour des Comptes" (French Public finance court ) estimated a cost of 35,000 euros in 2004. The official goal has always been 10,000 euros for Rafale "Air" and 7000 euros for the Rafale M in 2012.
    http://www.senat.fr/rap/r07-352/r07-35210.html
    Currently most sources indicate between 10,000 and 13,000 euros.

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    India may choose winner of fighter jet contract in 2 weeks
    Economic Times/ R euters, jan 17

    NEW DELHI: India may decide in the next two weeks whether the Eurofighter consortium or France's Dassault has won a contract for fighter jets, N A K Browne, chief of the Indian Air Force said, in a deal potentially worth about $10 billion.
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    "I am hopeful that in another two weeks' time we will be able to shortlist the name," Browne told ******* on the sidelines of an event. He declined to comment on who could be the winner of the contract.
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    "Right now we have to do the selection of who is going to be shortlisted," Browne said. He also said the end of current financial year on March 31 would have no bearing on the order. Once selected, the government will enter into negotiations with the lowest bidder to finalise the terms and contract value, which may take three to four months.
    "Once we shortlist, the commercial negotiations will start with the vendor," Browne said.
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    FRom:
    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/11522966.cms

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    Combat Aircraft Magazine, Feb 2011:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the II View Post
    ..or that you want to change the given decision. Or reinforce one...
    rumors.
    Remember, they plan a six-month negotiation after the selection of the winner. This will indeed be the time to use some serious lobbying. This is looking good for the Rafale.

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    Global Insider: France-India Relations

    WPR, 18 Jan 2012

    Earlier this month, India approved a $1.18 billion deal for the purchase of 500 Mica air-to-air missiles from the French defense firm MBDA. In an email interview, Jean-Luc Racine, a senior CNRS fellow at the Center for South Asia Studies at the School for Advanced Studies in Social Sciences and the vice president of the Asia Center in Paris, discussed France-India relations.

    WPR: What have been the Sarkozy administration's main priorities in advancing France-India ties?

    Jean-Luc Racine: Since then-President Jacques Chirac’s visit to India in 1998, France-India ties have improved consistently, and current President Nicolas Sarkozy has clearly toed the line. Paris looks at India as a truly emerging power deserving its due place in the world order. Three priorities have been defined: first, to reassert the value of this political partnership -- Sarkozy has visited India twice during his presidency; second, to improve bilateral trade and investments, with a notable high-tech cooperation content; and third, to enhance the strategic partnership, a field where defense ties and anti-terrorism are prominent.

    WPR: Where has it been successful, and where has it failed?

    Racine: On issues dear to India, the Sarkozy administration has not faltered. Paris resolutely supports India’s call to enlarge the permanent membership of the U.N. Security Council, and France has extended support as well to the civilian nuclear deal promoted by the Bush administration in order to offer India -- a nonsignatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty -- an exceptional status in the global nuclear trade regime. In fact, Paris was the first to sign a bilateral agreement on nuclear cooperation in fall 2008. Having Indian troops parade in Paris on Bastille Day 2009 sent a strong signal about France’s willingness to enhance the bilateral relationship further.

    On the economic front, despite a ministerial joint committee, the establishment of an Indo-French CEO Forum in 2009 and the presence of about 800 French companies in India, the $12 billion trade target for 2012 will probably not be met. India still views that aspect of the bilateral relationship as “below potential,” although 2010 sent a positive signal of recovery.

    On the strategic front, links are old and strong. The two navies conduct joint exercises regularly. India will soon upgrade its Mirage 2000 fighters (a $2.2 billion deal signed in 2011) and will equip them with new French missiles (a $1.18 billion deal signed in 2012). A joint working group has been established on counterterrorism.

    WPR: What are the likely areas of cooperation moving forward, and what are the main obstacles to closer ties?


    Racine: Defense deals are still in the cards, as Paris waits for New Delhi’s delayed decision about a major $20 billion contract for 126 combat aircraft -- Dassault’s Rafale having already been shortlisted. Space cooperation will probably expand after the success of the Megha-Tropiques joint satellite project. In major infrastructure investments, India expects large French companies to be on board. Civilian nuclear cooperation is on track, but the debate raised in India after the Fukushima disaster might delay the implementation of the ambitious contract signed between France’s Areva and the Nuclear Power Corp. of India for building up-to-date nuclear plants. It remains to be seen if divergent views on support to farmers will have a negative impact, not just on the World Trade Organization’s Doha Round, but also on bilateral relations. On the soft-power side, France needs to attract more Indian scientists and students to its academic institutions.
    From:
    http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/t...ndia-relations

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    Alain Ruello
    Washington is pushing New Delhi to cancel the tender between the Rafale and the Eurofighter in favor of the F-35, a source close to EADS says.

    (translated tweet 1h ago)
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    Journalist at Les Echos in charge of defense economics

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    Rafale M F1 retrofit started



    The aerospace industry service (ESIS) began the retrofit of the fleet of Rafale F1, which were mothballed until now. These ten aircraft have repeatedly been missed in the operational cycle, especially during Harmattan (only ten Rafale M were committed).
    This is the M10 which will undergo the first renovation project, which covers ten aircraft. It will be implemented at the AIA Clermont-Ferrand, specializing in the maintenance of cells.
    http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2012/0...it-des-f1.html

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    That's like two Rafale assembly lines now (seeing how the F1 are in pieces and need to be rewired and re assembled from scratch)
    ps: Rafale assembly line is in Bordeaux; not Clermont
    Last edited by xav; 01-19-2012 at 06:15 AM.

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