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    [CENTER][FONT=arial][SIZE=5]Rafale, the fighter "made in France" with 7000 jobs[/SIZE]
    [/FONT]L'Usine Nouvelle , Feb 1
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    MAIN PLANTS

    DASSAULT AVIATION Biarritz (Pyrénées-Atlantiques): Principal center of expertise and manufacturing for composite parts, the site is responsible for the rear section, the rudders and the drift.

    DASSAULT AVIATION Martignas (Gironde): Highly endowed with robots, the site provides assembly and testing of the blades (development of hydraulic and electrical circuits) of all civil and military aircraft of the company.

    DASSAULT AVIATION Argonay (Haute-Savoie): The site is specialized in production and repair of electronic equipment, mechanical and hydraulic flight controls (stick, cervo-steering control ...)

    THALES Étrelles (Ille-et-Vilaine), Pessac (Gironde), Le Haillan (Gironde): The production of the radar with active antenna is made at Étrelles for microelectronics components and at Pessac for the assembly. The cockpit avionics is made at Le Haillan.

    SAFRAN Villaroche (Seine-et-Marne), Evry (Essonne): The supplier assembles an M88 in two months in its Villaroche site. Most of the parts are supplied by its facility at Evry.

    DASSAULT AVIATION Argenteuil (Val d'Oise) For sixty years, Argenteuil manufactures and develops the fuselage of Dassault military aircraft. With a total of over 3500 cells under its belt, the site pilots this industrial activity.

    DASSAULT AVIATION Poitiers (Vienne) The plant produces and repairs canopy of the combat aircraft, as well as their packaging fireworks to disintegrate when ejecting the driver.

    DASSAULT AVIATION Mérignac (Gironde) The assembly operation occupies one third of the manufacturing cycle of the aircraft, about eight months [at the current rate of production]. Reinforced by an engineering division in charge to support the production, the site also provides painting operations and flight testing.
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    Google translated from:
    http://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/le-rafale-chasseur-made-in-france-aux-7-000-emplois.N164502


    Video of the assembly line:
    http://www.usinenouvelle.com/article...-video.N164670
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    [CENTER][FONT=arial][SIZE=5]France announces the victory of its fighter in India and increases chances in Brazil[/SIZE]
    [/FONT]Fohla de Sao Paulo / Igor Gielow, Jan 31
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    It lacks detail before signing, but the announced victory is a major coup for the French manufacturer and greatly increases the chances of the Rafale for the supply of 36 fighter jets to the FAB (Brazilian Air Force).
    This is because the Rafale was always a game with problems of industrial scale. To date, he has lost all international disputes in which it stood, being operated exclusively by the French Air Force and Marine. So far, 272 units had been ordered [no], which does not guarantee the future of the model without a foreign sale
    The problem that was always pointed out was the high price of the aircraft. For India, it is estimated to be spending more than $ 11 billion - which gives a relatively low cost of less than $ 90 million per plane and pack weapons and technology.
    In the Brazilian case, because the order is smaller, the amount offered more than $ 200 million per unit - but it is an estimate before competition have stopped at the beginning of Rousseff government. The deal here is estimated at up to $ 8 billion.
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    Google translated from:
    http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/1...o-brasil.shtml

    Stupid article, especially when they are talking about prices, but its perhaps the first time i read something positive about the Rafale in Fohla.

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    Meanwhile , in a "famous" french newspaper called Le Monde :




    Find the error...
    Eurofighter is also called "Eurocopter" and so on ...

    http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/artic...6971_3234.html

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    i am in deep depression...i badly wanted EF and not rafale

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    Quote Originally Posted by abhishek-nayak View Post
    i am in deep depression...i badly wanted EF and not rafale
    I am pretty sure if you pay the difference from your pocket IAF might be inclined to change their decision

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    [CENTER][FONT=arial][SIZE=5]France sees Rafale India talks taking 6-9 months[/SIZE]
    [/FONT]R_euters, Feb 1
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    Talks between France and India over the sale of 126 Rafale fighter jets should be wrapped up within six to nine months, French government spokeswoman Valerie Pecresse said on Wednesday.

    "We are hopeful that these exclusive talks will be concluded six to nine months from now," Pecresse told a briefing with reporters.

    President Nicolas Sarkozy has hailed India's decision this week to enter into exclusive talks with France's Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA) in a $15 billion contest to supply India with warplanes, after past attempts to sell the Rafale abroad failed.
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    From:
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    Quote Originally Posted by twinblade View Post
    I am pretty sure if you pay the difference from your pocket IAF might be inclined to change their decision
    but thats only 600 odd million $ extra.....if the govt can pay 2.3 billion $ for an obsolete Aircraft carrier,then whats so wrong in paying 600 million $ for one of the most advanced jets in the planet.

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    This is a "news topic":
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...=1#post5851057

    For stupid dicussions and pissing contests , go there:
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...NS-MMRCA/page9

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    Rafale Selection for the Indian Air Force: First Thoughts
    http://g2globalsolutions.com/review/?p=6147

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    [CENTER][FONT=arial][SIZE=5]Hard negotiations lie ahead for Dassault after Rafale's Indian selection [/SIZE]
    [/FONT]Flightglobal, Feb 1
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    With its attainment of "L1 vendor" status in India's medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) contest for 126 fighters, the Dassault Rafale is one step closer to securing its first overseas deal, but the road to a final agreement is still long.

    Dassault on 31 January confirmed that the Rafale had been selected ahead of the Eurofighter Typhoon. The Indian defence ministry, however, told Flightglobal that it has yet to make a formal announcement of the company's L1 status, and was uncertain about the timeframe for this. "Nothing is official yet," a defence ministry source said.

    Assuming the formal granting of L1 status, final negotiations between Dassault and the Indian government's Contract Negotiation Committee (CNC) could take between six months and one year, said an industry source familiar with Indian defence procurement policy.

    The process can be a tortuous one. According to defence ministry tender guidelines, a CNC should be comprised of individuals representing the stakeholders involved in an acquisition. In the case of MMRCA, the source believes the Indian air force, Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) and other key parties will be represented.

    The CNC will conduct a two-stage negotiation. The first will deal with details such as contract language and deliverables, and the second with pricing.

    On clearing the CNC, the contract will need the approval of the Defence Acquisition Council and India's finance ministry. Finally, the package will go before India's Cabinet Committee on Security, which will give the final sign-off.

    "The L1 price is not necessarily the price you will win with," said the source. "There will be multiple stakeholders involved in the decision and negotiations."

    Industry observers estimate the value of the MMRCA deal at between $10 billion and $20 billion - India's largest foreign arms purchase. Under the terms of the award, 18 aircraft will be delivered in a flyaway condition, with 108 to be built under licence by HAL.

    Although the Rafale has struggled in late-stage negotiations in Brazil and the United Arab Emirates, recent French wins on the subcontinent bode well for the successful conclusion of Dassault's MMRCA campaign
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    In July 2011, Dassault won a long-awaited $2.2 billion deal to upgrade the Indian air force's Mirage 2000H fighters to the 2000-9 standard. In early January, European firm MBDA confirmed a deal to equip the modified aircraft with Mica air-to-air missiles, although an official contract has yet to be signed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olybrius View Post
    Meanwhile , in a "famous" french newspaper called Le Monde :




    Find the error...
    Eurofighter is also called "Eurocopter" and so on ...

    http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/artic...6971_3234.html
    Yeah pretty bad, but here is even worst... for the lol, from the dailyfail:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-contract.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by xav View Post
    Yeah pretty bad, but here is even worst... for the lol, from the dailyfail:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-contract.html
    Is so bad that its actually funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xav View Post
    Yeah pretty bad, but here is even worst... for the lol, from the dailyfail:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-contract.html
    What the hell did I just read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdisonTrent View Post
    What the hell did I just read.
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    Well that's gratitude! We give India £1bn in aid, THEY snub the UK and give France a £13bn jet contract



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    [SIZE=2]​and after reading the article and comments,tell me one good reason for Indian public to not dislike the British...

    this article not only shows that the British media is getting into new lows( after phone hacking scandal) but they are also indulging in promoting xenophobia.[/SIZE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by xav View Post
    Yeah pretty bad, but here is even worst... for the lol, from the dailyfail:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-contract.html
    Like the French never gave us aid. Or the Americans. Or Canadians, Germans and Russians. I am pretty sure, at one time or the other, even Mexicans have sent some sort of aid. So why are the British entitled to preferential treatment ?

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