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    OK - its not a big deal - before the flight, this would have been factored in by the pilot and the event managers. The display would have made allowances for "what ifs" - ie - what happens if you loose an engine in the middle of a display routine, what do you do if another aircraft enters the display area without warning etc. The safety of the crowd is paramount.
    Rafale can loose an engine and still fly and land safely with ease - thats the advantage of having twin engines.

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    According to French newspaper Le Figaro Lula may prefer the Rafale due to tech transfert.

    In french : http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/20...ais-rafale.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitogno View Post
    According to French newspaper Le Figaro Lula may prefer the Rafale due to tech transfert.

    In french : http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/20...ais-rafale.php
    just read it in Le Monde too
    http://www.lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0...95@7-89,0.html

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    Brazilian President Says Dassault's Rafale Has 'Advantage' in Fighter Race

    BRASILIA, Brazil - France's offer to transfer technology to Brazil gives its Rafale fighter an "exceptional comparative advantage" in a competition to replace Brazil's fleet of fighter aircraft, President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva told AFP on Sept. 2.

    "A country of Brazil's importance cannot buy a product from another country without technology transfer," Lula said in an exclusive interview.

    "France has shown itself to be the most flexible country in terms of transferring technology, and evidently, this is an exceptional comparative advantage," the Brazilian president said.

    The Rafale, made by France's Dassault, is in fierce competition with the Swedish-made Gripen and Boeing's F/A-18 Super Hornet for a contract worth several billion dollars to supply Brazil with 36 fighter aircraft.

    Lula would not say which aircraft he prefers but said he may talk Sept. 3 with France's President Nicolas Sarkozy after meeting with Brazil's defense minister and the commander of the air force.

    Sarkozy is scheduled to make a 24-hour visit to Brasilia on Sept. 6, where he will be the guest of honor at Brazil's Independence Day celebrations.

    Lula recalled that during the visit Brazil and France would finalize a separate deal to acquire French submarines and helicopters.

    "France is the only important country ready to discuss with us technology transfers in all these domains," he said.

    "Brazil has drawn up a strategic defense plan. We are convinced ... that because of the Amazon, our deep-water offshore oil deposits, Brazil should have a defense industry in keeping with its size and importance," Lula said.
    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...38&c=EUR&s=AIR

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    ^ Good news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsoak View Post
    @Xav - Is Spectra a French only system or can it be exported. Is it optimised to the airframe ?

    All Rafale have SPECTRA as its fully intergrated into the airframe.



    The SPECTRA EW system provides a multi-spectral threat warning capability against hostile radars, missiles and lasers.

    It is fully integrated in the aircraft, giving it excellent survivability against both air and ground threats.

    SPECTRA provides all-weather reliable long-range detection, identification and location of threats, short response times and cutting-edge defensive measures based on combinations of jamming, decoying and evasive manoeuvres and on state-of-the-art technologies such as DRFM (Digital Radio Frequency Memory) signal processing.

    The angular location performance of SPECTRA makes it possible to locate ground threats to target them for destruction with precision guided munitions or to avoid them.

    Instrumental in SPECTRA's performance is a threat library that can be easily defined, integrated and updated on short notice by users in their own country.
    ... witha little splurge and a pic.


    But Spectra is much more than a traditional self-defence system as it is closely integrated with the primary sensors also supplied by Thales, the RBE2 multimode electronic scanning radar and the FSO passive front sector optronics system. As such, it considerably improves pilot situational awareness: all data obtained thanks to the various means are fused into a single tactical picture, offering the pilot a clear image of the evolving tactical situation. Spectra identifies the type of air-defence weapon, that has been detected; it takes the local terrain configuration into account and displays the lethality zones on a colour tactical screen, enabling the aircrew to avoid dangerous areas. This smart data fusion significantly increases mission success rates through enhanced crew awareness and improved aircraft survivability.


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    at last, Brazil picks Rafale




    Plus:
    Brazil to assemble French fighters for Latin market:FM
    BRASILIA, Brazil — Brazil would assemble Rafale fighter jets under an imminent deal with France, and could sell them to other Latin American nations, Foreign Minister Celso Amorim said Monday.

    His comments came after Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and visiting French President Nicolas Sarkozy announced in a joint statement that Brazil had started talks to acquire 36 Rafale combat aircraft in a deal worth billions of dollars.

    "There is a decision to negotiate the purchase of the Rafales, which won't be a simple purchase because there will be (aircraft) construction in Brazil -- there will be a possibility for Brazil to sell these planes to Latin America," Amorim told reporters.

    He explained that the Rafale's effective victory over two other aircraft in a race to equip Brazil's air force -- the F/A-18 Super Hornet made by US group Boeing and Sweden's Gripen NG, built by Saab -- hinged on France's pledge to share the technology that goes into the jet.

    "The central aspect of the French offer compared to the others is the effective transfer of technology. There will not only be access to knowhow, but we will also be able to have free access to expertise for other operations," he said.

    The French offered a price that was "competitive, reasonable and comparable to what the French defense forces pay," he said, adding that there were also unspecified financing options.
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...DbHPB1oH7LMn5g

    France will buy 10 of these as part of the deal:




    The rafale coverage of south america from 3 brazilain air base.
    red border = strandard HLH strike using GBU
    blue zone = extra coverage aloowed by the scalp-EG cruise missile



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    Congrats again to France!

    I have to say that camo looks wicked on the Rafale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbedeu View Post
    Congrats again to France!

    I have to say that camo looks wicked on the Rafale!
    I concur, the plane looks nice. The roundel threw me off for a minute.

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    Is this for real???!

    Congrats to Dassault and the Brazillians, good to see Rafale finally getting exported!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbedeu View Post
    Congrats again to France!

    I have to say that camo looks wicked on the Rafale!
    It does indeed.

    BTW I wouldn't be surprised if some of those KC-390's ended up specialised for SF use. They seem to be of a better size to role then the A400M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbedeu View Post
    Congrats again to France!

    I have to say that camo looks wicked on the Rafale!
    +1 Great news and she looks nice in those colors!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-5 Killer View Post
    +1 Great news and she looks nice in those colors!

    Got to agree with you on that one. Also, buying those transport planes as part of the deal was a damn shrewd move on Frances behalf - that stats point to an excellent SF / FFL long range desert carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xav View Post


    The rafale coverage of south america from 3 brazilain air base.
    red border = strandard HLH strike using GBU
    blue zone = extra coverage aloowed by the scalp-EG cruise missile



    Credits to KOVY for the pics
    Does it include aerial refueling? Drop tanks? I've seen few maps like this before and as far as I can remember only Flankers had truly continental reach. With refueling they could have reached the African coast.

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    congrats Rafale! i believe this is their first foreign buyer?

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