To quote the link you posted:Second, even if the APC looks to be intact from the side, what about the bottom?Further information from Cadman:
It was Afghanistan, it is a BTR-60 armored personnel carrier, and the people on it are Afghans. That much is correct.
Third, 14,000 in Afghanistan is not the slaughter that everyone makes it out to be. The fact that anyone died is sad, but when people try to use the figure to make the other side look bad is sickening. Would you tolerate it if a Russian came on and started saying that the US sucks because they lost 58,000 in Vietnam (before anybody misinterprets that, I don't feel that way)? I dunno, but doing it when you probably wouldn't tolerate it seems kind of hypocritical no?
An elementary school boy reacts after losing their game at the All Japan dodgeball championships in Tokyo August 17, 2008. About 2,700 elementary school children took part in the championships. *******/Toru Hanai
A local resident walks along the tracks of a destroyed bridge on the main railway link between Eastern and Western Georgia, near the town of Kaspi, 50 km (31 miles) west of Tbilisi, August 16, 2008. Georgia accused Russian troops of severing the country's main east-west train link on Saturday by blowing up a railway bridge in broad daylight. Russia's General Staff denied attacking the bridge, saying it regarded hostilities as over. *******/David Mdzinarishvili
A Georgian woman prays during Sunday mass in Matskhovris Karis Church in Zugdidi, a major town in western Georgia, August 17, 2008. Russia's Defence Ministry said on Sunday it had not yet begun withdrawing troops from Georgia's breakaway region of South Ossetia. *******/Umit Bektas
A blindfolded detainee sits next to confiscated weapons at an army headquarters in Baghdad August 16, 2008. One suspected insurgent was arrested and assorted weapons and munitions were recovered by the Iraqi army during a raid in Jihad district southwest of Baghdad on Saturday, an army officer said. *******/Stringer/iraq
A man takes a picture of a glider which has crashed onto the roof of a carpenter's shop in the village of Buttwil south of Zurich August 16, 2008. The 65 year-old pilot died in the crash. *******/Arnd Wiegmann
Italian formation Frecce Tricolori perform during an International Air Show in Kecskemet 90km (60 miles) south of Budapest August 16, 2008. *******/Karoly Arvai
Russian servicemen talk to a local resident in the Georgian town of Gori, about 80 km (50 miles) from Tbilisi, August 16, 2008. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Saturday signed a ceasefire agreement ending hostilities with Georgia over the breakaway region of South Ossetia, the Kremlin said. *******/David Mdzinarishvili
A Georgian man on crutches passes by a Russian soldier in Gori, Georgia, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008. Russian forces built ramparts of earth around tanks and posted sentries on a hill in central Georgia on Saturday, seemingly digging in amid Western pressure for Moscow to withdraw its forces under a cease-fire deal signed by Russia's president
Georgia's Security Council Secretary Alexander Lomaia looks at the remains of a Russian missile in Gori, 80 km (50 miles) from Tbilisi, August 16, 2008
Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet (R) listens to Georgia's Security Council Secretary Alexander Lomaia at a damaged apartment building in Gori, 80 km (50 miles) from Tbilisi, August 16, 2008. Russian forces in the occupied town of Gori in Georgia said on Saturday they had not received any order to pull out, but ******* witnessed a visible drawdown in the military presence
A missile lays on a military police car in the port of Poti on August 16, 2008. Russian troops reportedly looted and destroyed the facilities in the military part of the key Georgian port of Poti earlier today
Partially submerged by Russian forces, Georgian Coast Guard vessels are pictured through looted offices windows in the Port of Poti on August 16, 2008. The Georgian Interior ministry on August 15, 2008 said Russian forces were "destroying" Gori, the Georgian city closest to disputed South Ossetia but only 85 kilometres (50 miles) from Tbilisi, and demolishing military facilities in the port of Poti.
A Georgian security officer stands guard at a destroyed bridge on the main railway link between Eastern and Western Georgia, near the town of Kaspi, 50 km (31 miles) west of Tbilisi, August 16, 2008
A local resident looks at a destroyed bridge on the main railway link between Eastern and Western Georgia, near the town of Kaspi, 50 km (31 miles) west of Tbilisi, August 16, 2008. Georgia accused Russian troops of severing the country's main east-west train link on Saturday by blowing up a railway bridge in broad daylight. Russia's General Staff denied attacking the bridge, saying it regarded hostilities as over.
A local resident walks along the tracks of a destroyed bridge on the main railway link between Eastern and Western Georgia, near the town of Kaspi, 50 km (31 miles) west of Tbilisi, August 16, 2008. Georgia accused Russian troops of severing the country's main east-west train link on Saturday by blowing up a railway bridge in broad daylight.
A Georgian soldier wounded in Tskhinvali lies in a hospital on August 17, 2008 in Tbilisi, Georgia. Russia signed a cease fire agreement with Georgia on August 16 but continued their grip on the city of Gori, as Russia although the Russian forces commander General Vyacheslav Borisov said withdrawal of troops was underway.
A nurse works on a Georgian war casualty August 17, 2008 at the main hospital in Tbilisi, Georgia. Russian troops continued to occupy the central Georgian city of Gori, even as political negotiations to secure their withdrawal took place behind the scenes
A Russian soldier takes aim on August 15, 2008 outside of Gori. Chaos reigned in Gori as Russian soldiers started moving out, leaving looters and criminals to take advantage of a power vacuum in the strategic Georgian town, residents said. Three days after a ceasefire was brokered between Moscow and Tbilisi and following protracted negotiations between Georgian and Russian officials, Russian troops appeared to have largely withdrawn from the city.
Russian troops wearing looted Georgian uniforms take positions on August 16, 2008 near the village of Igoeti on the road from Gori to Tbilisi, about 45 kilometres from Tbilisi, Georgia
Russian soldiers look at Georgian police, unseen, in Igoeti, northwest of the capital Tbilisi, Georgia, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008
Georgian servicemen travel past Russian troops (R) on a road in the Georgian village of Igoeti, about 50 km (31 miles) from Tbilisi, August 16, 2008.
A Georgian soldier looks at the Russian military vehicles, in Igoeti, northwest of the capital Tbilisi, Georgia, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008
Russian soldiers sit on a armoured troop-carrier as they roll past destroyed buildings on August 16, 2008 in Tskhinvali. Dozens of haggard Georgian captives were marched through the rebel city of South Ossetia, as separatists called on Tbilisi to recover the rotting corpses of its soldiers. The mostly elderly men -- apparently all civilians -- walked with their heads bowed and their hands behind their backs, escorted by armed guards. Locals stopped to take pictures on their mobile phones. Some pointed and laughed as the detainees marched through Tskhinvali. One woman said: "Those are the prisoners? But they're just old men!".
Detained ethnic Georgians carry a coffin as they are made to collect the bodies of dead Georgians soldiers in the South Ossetian capital of Tshinvali August 15, 2008.
Detained ethnic Georgians sit in a truck with coffins as they are made to collect the bodies of dead Georgians soldiers in the South Ossetian capital of Tshinvali August 15, 2008.
Ossetian men collect the body of a Georgian soldier, from a street in Tskhinval, Georgia, Thursday, Aug. 14, 2008.
Russian soliders guard Kikhva village, 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) to Tskhinvali, Georgia, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008. Many villages populated by ethnic Georgians have been burned down during the Russian-Georgian conflict. Teams of ethnic Georgian civilians, some under armed guard, are being forced to clean the streets of South Ossetia's capital on Saturday.
Russian forces ride atop of an armored vehicle in Orjosani, between the capital Tbilisi and strategic town of Gori, Georgia, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008
Russian troops take positions on August 16, 2008 near the village of Igoeti on the road from Gori to Tbilisi, about 45 kilometres from Tbilisi, Georgia.
Looks like a couple of Negevs in there ...
An Abkhazian soldier displays an assault rifle, one of the firearms looted by Russian-backed separatists from Georgian barracks in Georgia's last stronghold in Abkhazia and displayed at an undisclosed location in the breakaway province, Sunday, Aug. 17, 2008. The separatists were bolstering their control over the area after Russian-backed Abkhazian fighters forced Georgians out of their last stronghold in the province earlier this week. The renewed military action in Abkhazia came alongside fighting in another breakaway province in Georgia, South Ossetia, that has pit Russian and U.S.-backed Georgian forces against each other since Aug. 7 and prompted world diplomatic efforts to end the violence
A Russian soldier inspects armored vehicles allegedly seized by the Russians from the Georgian military, in Tskhinvali, in the Georgian breakaway province of South Ossetia, Sunday, Aug. 17, 2008. Russian military authorities issued a flurry of conflicting reports Sunday about whether Russian troops had begun to pull out of South Ossetia, one of Georgia's two separatist provinces.
Russian soldiers travel on top of an APC on a road to the Georgian village of Igoeti some 50 km from the capital Tbilisi on August 16, 2008. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev signed a peace deal with Georgia on Saturday but his troops again underlined their grip by pushing even deeper toward the capital Tbilisi.
A Georgian villager is seen by a Russian armored vehicle heading from the city of Senaki towards the Abkhazian border in western Georgia, Sunday, Aug. 17, 2008.
A Russian tank is seen driving down the road towards the Georgian military airbase of Senaki, western Georgia, Sunday, Aug. 17, 2008. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Sunday that Russia would begin to pull back troops on Monday. But he suggested they might remain in separatist South Ossetia, the focus of days of fighting between Russia and Georgia that erupted this month.
That makes a lot of sense.
This cassette, multiple bomblettes?
Last edited by He219; 08-17-2008 at 07:23 PM.
The Russian soldiers capture Georgian MARPAT uniforms and then proceed to wear them? LOL, brilliant....
They must be raiding alot of barracks, there's quite a few of them in the pictures over the past few days wearing MARPAT gear.
Russians guard a road in Georgia
Tanks with blown off turrets
A Russian soldier on duty in the streets of Gori
The Associated Press GORI, [*******#000000]Georgia[/COLOR] - Russia's president said troops would begin pulling out of Georgia on Monday, but made no mention of leaving the separatist province at the heart of the conflict between the countries.
Refugees still moving august 16, 2008
Filipino soldiers carry a wounded comrade at a [*******#000000]military[/COLOR] base in Marawi city, Lanao del Sur province, southern [*******#000000]Philippines[/COLOR] on Sunday Aug. 17, 2008
PIKIT, North Cotabato - An Army trooper and 15 rebels were reported killed here yesterday as fighting erupted despite the commitment of the separatist Moro [*******#000000]Islamic[/COLOR] Liberation Front (MILF) to withdraw from occupied areas in the province.
In WW2, Germans caught wearing allied uniforms were executed. I wonder what would happen to those Russian soldiers if they were captured by the Georgians....
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Dozens of people were killed or injured Sunday after a wave of bombings in Iraq
US soldiers on patrol
Sunday, 17 August 2008
[*******#000000]WASHINGTON[/COLOR] - Federal prosecutors have sent target [*******#000000]letters[/COLOR] to six Blackwater [*******#000000]Worldwide[/COLOR] security guards involved in a September shooting that left 17 [*******#000000]Iraqi[/COLOR] civilians dead, indicating a high likelihood the [*******#000000]Justice[/COLOR] Department will seek to indict at least some of the [*******#000000]men[/COLOR]
HAVANA—Tropical Storm Fay spun toward Cuba on Sunday after lashing Haiti and the Dominican Republic with *******ial rains and floods that killed at least four people.
Monday, 18 August 2008
[*******#000000]TBILISI[/COLOR], Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia accused the [*******#000000]Russian[/COLOR] army of destroying a key railway bridge Saturday and starting massive fires in the scenic Borjomi Gorge, in violation of a new cease-fire agreement between the two countries....
...............[SIZE=3][*******red]And So it GOES[/COLOR][/SIZE]