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    Quote Originally Posted by Kypchak TURK View Post
    I heard Iran wants to buy Su-30 (MKIR could be it's name), and Mig 29 is there a possibility of Russia selling these to Iran. How are Iranian-Russian relations?
    Their Air Force need a urgent replacements for many of their aircrafts...the best air superiority fighter that they have is the MiG-29A, today is nothing more impressive but is really old if you consider that was in service with the Soviet Air Force in 1983-84, today their MiG-29s have only few chances for engage and defeat the latest U.S. fighters.

    I don't know about the Su-30s...

    I hearded that they were interested to upgrade their MiG-29 to SMT standard but don't know if this contract is still open...
    Another possibility could be the MiG-29M2s.

    Anyway, they need replace a lot and Moscow can offers a lot of export versions, Su-32s for replace the Phantom 2s and the Fencers, Su-35s for replace the Tomcats...also the Mi-28N was offered to Iran, and most probably they will buy it in some numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuroiRyu View Post
    Their Air Force need a urgent replacements for many of their aircrafts...the best air superiority fighter that they have is the MiG-29A, today is nothing more impressive but is really old if you consider that was in service with the Soviet Air Force in 1983-84, today their MiG-29s have only few chances for engage and defeat the latest U.S. fighters.

    I don't know about the Su-30s...

    I hearded that they were interested to upgrade their MiG-29 to SMT standard but don't know if this contract is still open...
    Another possibility could be the MiG-29M2s.

    Anyway, they need replace a lot and Moscow can offers a lot of export versions, Su-32s for replace the Phantom 2s and the Fencers, Su-35s for replace the Tomcats...also the Mi-28N was offered to Iran, and most probably they will buy it in some numbers.
    What are Iranian-Russian relations though, would the Russians do it, well I guess they would now that U.S is right behind Georgia, they wouldn't care what Israel would say either because Israel sold Georgia lots of weapons and provided training.

    Secondly does Iran have the money to do this? Buy Russian equipment?

    There air force needs help desperate help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kypchak TURK View Post
    What are Iranian-Russian relations though, would the Russians do it, well I guess they would now that U.S is right behind Georgia, they wouldn't care what Israel would say either because Israel sold Georgia lots of weapons and provided training.

    Secondly does Iran have the money to do this? Buy Russian equipment?

    There air force needs help desperate help.
    I think actually money is not a big problem for Teheran, there are sanctions but Beijing continue to help them. They can do some replacements.

    The Moscow-Teheran ties are growing, this is sure. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, always same story...
    What Moscow should do, is reflect a bit. The West and the other democracies...want just prosperity and security, Moscow should follow this way, but instead they continue with that "Iron Curtain" ideas and strenght ties with countries that sooner or later will damage seriously the Russian security.
    If Russian need money, instead that supply with modern systems regime such the Iranian and the Chinese one, huge countries with big population at the gates of Moscow, they should strenght ties with more safe countries like India, African nations, South American countries...but not strenght ties with regime that just they improve tensions in the world with proliferation of weapons of mass destrucion, terrorist attacks such Teheran, Beijing, Pyongyang...

    Sooner or later they will understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuroiRyu View Post
    The Moscow-Teheran ties are growing, this is sure. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, always same story...
    What Moscow should do, is reflect a bit. The West and the other democracies...want just prosperity and security, Moscow should follow this way, but instead they continue with that "Iron Curtain" ideas
    *cough* Georgia *cough*
    This is seriously off-topic, but since you state it, such things should work... well, in both directions, eh? And just because CNN calls Georgia a marvel of democracy and peacefulness... doesn't make it that way, don't you think?

    Until then, Russia IMO has the full moral right to arm Iran, just as US armed Georgia. That's the crappy way our world turn around

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    Great photos of An-74 She's a beautiful bird

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    Iranian made/designed HESA Shahed 278 military and civil helicopter:







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    Quote Originally Posted by ggk View Post

    Those covered round objects on the left of the main gun, are they IR searchlights? I would have thought the first thing they would do is upgrade the optics, given how Iraqi T-72s with IR searchlights were out-ranged in the GW and OIF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savushka View Post
    Until then, Russia IMO has the full moral right to arm Iran, just as US armed Georgia. That's the crappy way our world turn around
    I'm sorry. Is Georgia a threath for Moscow, for the Russian people? Is Georgian governement calling for the destruction of Russia? For wipe of the Russian people? Is Georgia trying to have a nuclear deterrent? Is Georgia actually doing terrorists attacks killing innocents Russian civilians?

    NO. Nothing of destabilization here.

    Is Iran a threath for Israel, for a nation reknowed by all the world for the devolopment and the prosperity of the earth? Is Iranian regime calling the destruction of Israel, a sovrane nation? For wipe off the Israeli people? Is Iran regime trying to have a offensive nuclear arsenal? Is Iranian regime actually doing or help terrorist organizations for conduct terrorist attacks killing innocents Israeli civilians?

    YES. A lot of destabilization here.

    Stop off opic.

    Thanks for the photos, very interesting material indeed
    Thank you for the apprecation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpheus View Post
    Those covered round objects on the left of the main gun, are they IR searchlights? I would have thought the first thing they would do is upgrade the optics, given how Iraqi T-72s with IR searchlights were out-ranged in the GW and OIF.
    You can upgrade your optics and fire control and make it quite decent for daytime operations without replacing the IR lights with thermals....thermals are very expensive.

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    so lets say the iranian military and israel military met i know its not possible since there both far from each other lets say they met on the ground who would win

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    Quote Originally Posted by corra View Post
    not to offend but ....the t72 is very modern...
    it's quite adequate, with upgraded fire control......late model T-72s had better armor against KE than early M1s....

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    Grumman F-14 "Tomcat"

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    The Iranian Air Force F-14 Tomcat is credited with over 130 air-to-air victories during the Imposed War (1980-88), making it one of the most successful fighers of all time. It is estimated that fifty are still flying for the IRIAF.

    The United States Congress recently passed a law ordering the destruction of all F-14 spares for fear they somehow wind up in Iranian hands. Many refurbished F-14s flew over Tehran at the 2008 Military Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRussian1 View Post
    it's quite adequate, with upgraded fire control......late model T-72s had better armor against KE than early M1s....
    The only country that uses latest T-72 is Russia(T-90).. All others countries T-72 end up with no turrets.
    And i would like the source for KE protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoshi View Post
    The only country that uses latest T-72 is Russia(T-90).. All others countries T-72 end up with no turrets.
    And i would like the source for KE protection.
    Late model is T-72B etc. it had much better protection than earlier variants, especially in the turret. regarding KE protection, go on tanknet.com, read around a bit, youll find it. i dont feel like finding rather commonly know info for you. perhaps ill find a few direct links tommorow.

    and do tell what T-72 ending up with no turrets has to do with anything? hell, a T-90 will also end up with no turret. thats just because of their ammo layout, that leads to turrets being blown off after the tank is left burning, and the ammo eventualy cooks off in the hull....its not like that happens directly from an enemy hit on the turret.

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    Dassault Breguet Mirage F1

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    The Mirage F1 was obtained by Iran from elements of the Iraqi Air Force during the First Gulf War, which flew to Iran on orders from Saddam Hussein. At least three examples were seen participating at the National Military Day in Tehran in 2008.

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    S-125, HQ-2, Sayyad-1



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