Future Canadian Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) ,CU-163 ([FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]MQ-9 [/SIZE][/FONT]Altair UAV , $10 million each)
Last edited by Factanonverba; 10-14-2008 at 10:57 PM.
Future Canadian Army need a MALE and HALE uav and many possibility is the :
MALE (Medium Altitude, Long Endurance)
- CU-163 Altair
- CU-163 Predator
- CU-160 Eagle-1/Eagle-2
HALE (High Altitude, Long Endurance)
- RQ-4 Global Hawk (CAN$150 Million each)
Right now the Altair and Pedator are selected ,Canada need a long endurance patrol who can carried missiles and Target Acquisition night and day
The JSS project is a canceled project but nobody talk about the Amphibious Project who still in paper...but since 3 years now General hillier want a amphibious task forces for canadian forces..but how if we don't have LHD ? Canadian Forces acquired for 2009 6x second hand CH-47D from U.S Stock and 16x new CH-47F for 2011, CH-47 are very good for fast deployement in hostile zone, not the CH-124 who will be retired in 2009 and remplaced by CH-148 who can carried troops but his primary mission is for sure anti-submarines.....
If canada buy new CH-47 and think about "Marines Corps" is for one reason, the LHD project...anyway canada need remplaced his 40 years Protecteur Class who still the last remaining steam boat in the entire world.
Canada need fast deployments like in 2006 during Lebanon War who take one week to evacuated all canadian citizen who live in Lebanon, canada need fast and deployable unit that what Rick Hillier said to Stephen Harper in 2006-2007. And like my picture of ITEE, this exercise cost 300 Million dollar to canadian forces, isn't a joke the Amphibious Ship Project is a key of canadian forces like the JSS
Last edited by Factanonverba; 10-14-2008 at 11:23 PM.
"Future Canadian [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]MQ-9 [/SIZE][/FONT]Altair UAV"
Your words, not mine..
In any case, I suggest you read the RFP on UAVs for the JUSTAS project.
The requirment is for an armed UAV, that rules out the Altair variant.
There will be two bidders in the final selection.
General Atomics MQ9 Reaper and IAI Heron TP
Stop reading CASR, you were laughed off of army.ca for your half-informed ideas.
PS, We're still waiting to hear more about the sinking of HMCS Chicoutimi.
Canada has selected since 4years now the small lease uav like the [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Silver Fox, [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Skylark who now work in Afghanistan for Canadian troops and Scan Eagle for 2009[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]. Canadian Forces said in 2007 lease for two years the Israel made Heron for 96 million dollar, but after few months canada want a better and faster UAV for SAR and Army and one of the project is the Altair.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]Lease Heron, Silver Fox, Skylark and Scan Eagle for 2008-2009[/SIZE][/FONT]http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...-military.html
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]In 2006 canada buy second hand 10x [/SIZE][/FONT]Sperwer [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]UAV
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htp.../20080718.aspx here they talk about Sperwer second hand and Heron but isn't sure like i said isn't a lease to buy or just buy is only a lease but canada need a UAV fleet for remplacing the again Sperwer.
In 2004 Boeing launch his first Jet Fighter UAV, one of many reason why canada don't want investigated on the F-35 JSF....but in Boeing X-45 and X-47A/B from Northrop Grumman (not sure again). More 10 UAV MALE and THALE are selected for the exposition this months or in december i don't remember , the Altair is one of the posibility for SAR and Military (Air,Navy,Army)
Last edited by Factanonverba; 10-15-2008 at 01:14 AM.
First yes i was in Army.ca , second yes the HMCS sank man if you want picture
2004: On its maiden voyage as a Canadian vessel, a fire breaks out in the electrical equipment room of HMCS Chicoutimi causing "extensive damage to cabling," says Commodore Tyrone Pile, commander of the Canadian Fleet Atlantic. Nine members of the crew suffer smoke inhalation. Three crewmen are transferred by Royal Navy helicopter to a hospital in Ireland. Lieut. Chris Saunders, 32, dies on the helicopter.
The navy orders the three other Victoria-class submarines to dock while an inquiry takes place to determine the cause of the Chicoutimi fire. Other than the few months in 2000 before the Victoria was commissioned, it is the first time since 1961 the Canadian navy has been without an active submarine.
2005: The Department of Defence announces that Canada's four Oberon-class submarines are to be sold for scrap for about $50,000 apiece. The navy says the subs have deteriorated too much even to be used as museum pieces.
A transformer melts down on HMCS Windsor off the Nova Scotia coast, starting a small fire aboard the sub. No sailors are injured and the Windsor, Canada's only operational submarine, remains at sea.
2006 A Quebec naval museum, the Musée de la Mer de Pointe-au-Pere in Rimouski, Que., buys the former HMCS Onondaga, one of the Oberon-class submarines decommissioned in 2000, for $4, plus tax.
The Department of National Defence announces that repair work on HMCS Chicoutimi won't start until 2010. The announcement pushes back the Chicoutimi's scheduled launch date from 2007 to 2012.
First time in 40years canada has a fleet of submarine and they sunk in Irland
nrc claim canada need a UAV who are capable to fly over 30+ hours and can carried missiles, camera and extra fuel (Heron & Altair can doing that)
Maximum Speed : 207 km/h
Maximum Range : 3,300 km
Endurance: 40 h
Maximum speed : 400 km/h
Maximum Range : 5926 km
Endurance: 16-28 h
Canada need fast and long range and long endurance fly one of reason why ALTAIR and HERON are selected for MALE.
But the HERON is only a lease for 2 years (2009-2011) after that canada need anyway a MALE and HALE...and right now nobody can said if the HERON going to be a lease to buy or they only use the ALTAIR right now they're satisfied about the ALTAIR capacity.
Incidents On October 30, 2005, Windsor suffered a minor electrical transformer meltdown while submerged off the Nova Scotia coast.
Incidents On October 5, Chicoutimi electrical fire
Incidents In 2002, a dent was discovered in Victoria's hull that limited its diving depth to 75% of normal. The dent was not successfully repaired until the end of 2007
I guess is only the Corner Brook who still floating....the rest is on reparation or modernization like the new Sonar for patrol in Artic...And isn't the Victoria-class who happened in fact British had accident too before in 1990-1994
They said here the HMCS Corner Brook have only 98 day of patrol in 2007. HMCS Victoria is on reparation since 2005, HMCS Chicoutimi is on Drydock since 2004 , the HMCS Windsor are in Drydock all years 2007 and will rejoint the water in only end of 2008. In 1998 when canada lease to buy the British Submarine that was evaluated at 750 Million dollar, in 2008 the submarines are aproximatly 343 Million dollar ,and only one can dive and has only 98 day of patrol.Situation en 2008 Achetés usagés pour 750 millions de dollars canadiens, les quatre sous-marins de classe Victoria ne valent plus en 2008 que 343 millions de dollar, selon un inventaire des actifs des forces armées canadiennes réalisé par le chef du Service d'examen de la Défense nationale. En 2007, le seul sous-marin qui a navigué est le NCSM Corner Brook, comptant 98 jours en mer. Le NCSM Victoria est en réparation depuis 2005, le NCSM Chicoutimi est en cale sèche depuis un incendie à son bord en 2004 et le NCSM Windsor a été en cale sèche toute l'année 2007 et devrait faire l'objet d'essais en mer d'ici la fin de 2008.
Last edited by Factanonverba; 10-15-2008 at 01:47 AM.
Anyway this is my choice to said the submarines is a waste of money and if you said no why since 2004 our submarine is only in reparation...
Yes, everyone now knows it was probably a bad idea to buy them. But regardless no submarine has sunk, none, all you have proved is that they have suffered damage electrically or structurally.