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    CC-177 Globe Master III in Bagotville, Québec





    A CC-130 Hercules aircraft kicks up a cloud of snow as it taxis in to pick up personnel and supplies at Joint Task Force North (JTFN), Yellowknife, NT.




    Herc's in
    CFS Alert (ECHELON Key base), very rare picture. It is the northernmost permanently-inhabited settlement in the world.




    CC-130 Herc's in Afghanistan

    Old awesome picture from 3 great CC-130 who crash between 1960's to 1980's still a great picture.

    2x CC-130 with Camo Paint

    CC-130 refuel 6x CF-18

    CC-130 Tactical Landing

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    Two same aircraft, only different generation






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    Wow great effort Facta! This thread is now CF Epic! Bookmarked for further updates

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    Thank you so much Factanonverba, Your pictures are epic! Kudos to you!

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    CU-161 Sperwer









    Future Canadian Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) ,CU-163 ([FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]MQ-9 [/SIZE][/FONT]Altair UAV , $10 million each)













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    Sorry, but the CF leased the Altair for a one time trial.
    It will not be used by the CF in the future.

    The UAV procurement project is called JUSTAS.

    The candidates will most likely be the Heron TP, or Predator B/Reaper

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    Future Canadian [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]MQ-9 [/SIZE][/FONT]Altair UAV ( $10 million each )







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    Both of these projects are now officially "Dead in the Water"

    Actually, only one was actually official, the "Joint Support Ship.

    Due to non-compliant bids, the JSS project has been canceled.

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    Canadian Future Amphibious Forces? Like everyone know the "Key's" of Canadian Forces and Canadian Navy was abandoned few months ago due of the cost ($2.9Billion dollar for only the project)but another project who cost less money are not abondonned but can be the future Canadian Amphibious Ship, like a Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) Gen. Rick Hillier, said the canadian forces need a amphibious capability with aproximatly 1000+ soldiers like a U.S Marines Corps but Canadian Version. The last time canada had a Amphibious Unit that was in World War Two and Korea War, after the war canada said the future warfare going to be with only Missiles and Aircraft but since 2001, Rick Hillier said the future warfare is on water (why some nation use Stealth Ship now)
    http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=1f109d87-a204-4ac0-83cb-d5e6ad2c4127&p=1


    http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=34d1762b-7ead-4aad-8a38-d5bfcbcd2163&k=53692&p=1


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_...s_assault_ship

    http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/communi..._e.asp?id=2053

    Joint Support Ship

    - A support ship with some intrinsic fighting capability.
    - Provides fuel, supplies, food and ammunition for ships in order to keep them at sea.
    - Can carry up to 155 people in addition to the ship's crew.
    - Can disembark equipment and personnel relatively slowly and methodically using Roll-On Roll-Off (RO-RO) and Lift-On Lift-Off (LO-LO) capabilities.
    - Can offload equipment and personnel in a "permissive," or peaceful, environment.
    - Project initiated in 2000 and adapted to the post 9/11 security environment.

    Amphibious Ship

    - A fighting ship with some intrinsic support capability.
    - Consumes fuel, supplies, food and ammunition in order to project Canadian Forces ashore.
    - Can carry a significantly larger military force with equipment and vehicles in 'fighting order,' enabling the CF to face armed opposition ashore.
    - Can rapidly disembark personnel and equipment in 'waves' using 'connector systems' such as landing craft and/or helicopters.
    - Can offload equipment and personnel in the face of armed opposition.
    - Project in early stages. Initial Concept of Operations under development.


    like you can see the Amphibious and JSS is a very close project but one is $2.9 Billion Dollar (JSS) and the other one is 1 Billion Dollar (Amphibious)

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    Future Canadian Army need a MALE and HALE uav and many possibility is the :

    MALE (Medium Altitude, Long Endurance)

    - CU-163 Altair
    - CU-163 Predator
    - CU-160 Eagle-1/Eagle-2
    - EuroMale

    HALE (High Altitude, Long Endurance)

    - RQ-4 Global Hawk (CAN$150 Million each)

    Right now the Altair and Pedator are selected ,Canada need a long endurance patrol who can carried missiles and Target Acquisition night and day

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    Quote Originally Posted by guest View Post
    Sorry, but the CF leased the Altair for a one time trial.
    It will not be used by the CF in the future.

    The UAV procurement project is called JUSTAS.

    The candidates will most likely be the Heron TP, or Predator B/Reaper
    I never said is a canadian one i said is a future...and isn't sure the Heron, Eagle-1/Eagle-2. I guess in December that going to be the first exposition of UAV for canadian forces. Before the replacements of CU-131 (end life)

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    The JSS project is a canceled project but nobody talk about the Amphibious Project who still in paper...but since 3 years now General hillier want a amphibious task forces for canadian forces..but how if we don't have LHD ? Canadian Forces acquired for 2009 6x second hand CH-47D from U.S Stock and 16x new CH-47F for 2011, CH-47 are very good for fast deployement in hostile zone, not the CH-124 who will be retired in 2009 and remplaced by CH-148 who can carried troops but his primary mission is for sure anti-submarines.....

    If canada buy new CH-47 and think about "Marines Corps" is for one reason, the LHD project...anyway canada need remplaced his 40 years Protecteur Class who still the last remaining steam boat in the entire world.

    Canada need fast deployments like in 2006 during Lebanon War who take one week to evacuated all canadian citizen who live in Lebanon, canada need fast and deployable unit that what Rick Hillier said to Stephen Harper in 2006-2007. And like my picture of ITEE, this exercise cost 300 Million dollar to canadian forces, isn't a joke the Amphibious Ship Project is a key of canadian forces like the JSS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Factanonverba View Post
    I never said is a canadian one i said is a future...and isn't sure the Heron, Eagle-1/Eagle-2. I guess in December that going to be the first exposition of UAV for canadian forces. Before the replacements of CU-131 (end life)
    Yes, you did...

    "Future Canadian [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]MQ-9 [/SIZE][/FONT]Altair UAV"

    Your words, not mine..

    In any case, I suggest you read the RFP on UAVs for the JUSTAS project.

    The requirment is for an armed UAV, that rules out the Altair variant.

    There will be two bidders in the final selection.
    General Atomics MQ9 Reaper and IAI Heron TP

    Stop reading CASR, you were laughed off of army.ca for your half-informed ideas.

    PS, We're still waiting to hear more about the sinking of HMCS Chicoutimi.

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    Canada has selected since 4years now the small lease uav like the [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Silver Fox, [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Skylark who now work in Afghanistan for Canadian troops and Scan Eagle for 2009[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]. Canadian Forces said in 2007 lease for two years the Israel made Heron for 96 million dollar, but after few months canada want a better and faster UAV for SAR and Army and one of the project is the Altair.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]Lease Heron, Silver Fox, Skylark and Scan Eagle for 2008-2009[/SIZE][/FONT]http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...-military.html
    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]In 2006 canada buy second hand 10x [/SIZE][/FONT]Sperwer [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1]UAV
    [/SIZE][/FONT]http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles...ne-usage.shtml

    http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htp.../20080718.aspx here they talk about Sperwer second hand and Heron but isn't sure like i said isn't a lease to buy or just buy is only a lease but canada need a UAV fleet for remplacing the again Sperwer.

    In 2004 Boeing launch his first Jet Fighter UAV, one of many reason why canada don't want investigated on the F-35 JSF....but in Boeing X-45 and X-47A/B from Northrop Grumman (not sure again). More 10 UAV MALE and THALE are selected for the exposition this months or in december i don't remember , the Altair is one of the posibility for SAR and Military (Air,Navy,Army)


    http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/manitoba/nouvelles/200404/21/002-avion_boeing.shtml


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    Quote Originally Posted by guest View Post
    Yes, you did...

    "Future Canadian [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]MQ-9 [/SIZE][/FONT]Altair UAV"

    Your words, not mine..

    In any case, I suggest you read the RFP on UAVs for the JUSTAS project.

    The requirment is for an armed UAV, that rules out the Altair variant.

    There will be two bidders in the final selection.
    General Atomics MQ9 Reaper and IAI Heron TP

    Stop reading CASR, you were laughed off of army.ca for your half-informed ideas.

    PS, We're still waiting to hear more about the sinking of HMCS Chicoutimi.

    First yes i was in Army.ca , second yes the HMCS sank man if you want picture



    2004: On its maiden voyage as a Canadian vessel, a fire breaks out in the electrical equipment room of HMCS Chicoutimi causing "extensive damage to cabling," says Commodore Tyrone Pile, commander of the Canadian Fleet Atlantic. Nine members of the crew suffer smoke inhalation. Three crewmen are transferred by Royal Navy helicopter to a hospital in Ireland. Lieut. Chris Saunders, 32, dies on the helicopter.
    The navy orders the three other Victoria-class submarines to dock while an inquiry takes place to determine the cause of the Chicoutimi fire. Other than the few months in 2000 before the Victoria was commissioned, it is the first time since 1961 the Canadian navy has been without an active submarine.
    2005: The Department of Defence announces that Canada's four Oberon-class submarines are to be sold for scrap for about $50,000 apiece. The navy says the subs have deteriorated too much even to be used as museum pieces.
    A transformer melts down on HMCS Windsor off the Nova Scotia coast, starting a small fire aboard the sub. No sailors are injured and the Windsor, Canada's only operational submarine, remains at sea.
    2006 A Quebec naval museum, the Musée de la Mer de Pointe-au-Pere in Rimouski, Que., buys the former HMCS Onondaga, one of the Oberon-class submarines decommissioned in 2000, for $4, plus tax.
    The Department of National Defence announces that repair work on HMCS Chicoutimi won't start until 2010. The announcement pushes back the Chicoutimi's scheduled launch date from 2007 to 2012.


    First time in 40years canada has a fleet of submarine and they sunk in Irland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factanonverba View Post
    First yes i was in Army.ca , second yes the HMCS sank man if you want picture

    The Department of National Defence announces that repair work on HMCS Chicoutimi won't start until 2010. The announcement pushes back the Chicoutimi's scheduled launch date from 2007 to 2012.


    First time in 40years canada has a fleet of submarine and they sunk in Irland
    She was towed back to Faslane, and therefore couldn't have sank. It suffered an electrical fire. Later it was transported to Halifax.

    And what's this about "they" sunk? HMC Ships Windsor, Victoria and Corner Brook are in Canada.

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