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    So, I'm not the only one who got the same impression.

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    omg bono is doing a tour .....lol

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    Damn, I thought this thread was going to be about Budweiser.

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    I don't see anything unusual with the first pics. All troops have weapons, so they will obviously be visible. Its not like they have to be part of some uber unit to be visibly armed and ready - soldier first, tradesman second and all that.

    Although I will say theres a lot of guys wearing body armour and in situ's where it looks like contact could happen quite likely, and not many wearing helmets. I know its quicker to put a helmet on than armour, and I'm sure they are keeping tabs on the threat level, but just seems odd to me. If theres enough of a risk to wear armour, ballistic glasses, and be pointing your rifle about, surely its risky enough that you should wear your bonedome?

    However with the last few pictures I entirely get what you are saying. Guys lining up a foot from each other with weapons very prominently displayed looks rather militant. Or like the film 'Starship Troopers'. Is this actually a real tactic for a certain situation, or done for the cameras?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britboy View Post
    However with the last few pictures I entirely get what you are saying. Guys lining up a foot from each other with weapons very prominently displayed looks rather militant. Or like the film 'Starship Troopers'. Is this actually a real tactic for a certain situation, or done for the cameras?
    I'm not an expert but I think that tactic is called "Ausweichschießen" in German, and it is actually a real tactic.

    See my album about German Fernspäher here

    You will find various pics of said maneuver:







    I think it is used to unleash the maximum firepower a small group has to to secure a retreat or to recover injured comrades.

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    I can see how you'd do it in rehearsals or a 'walk-thru, talk-thru' of concepts.

    But doing it for real looks like a good way to bunch up and make all of yourselves a great target for grenade/RPG/even a burst of MMG fire.

    However, I am not a Fernspaher, and have not been to Afg; and I am sure these blokes have the knowledge to do things right. I defer to them on that, but it does seem just a little unusual to me.

    Interesting stuff though, thanks for sharing those pics with us!

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    All I see are pictures of guys who have adapted their combat dress and equipment to meet the requirements on the ground, in a particular location, as all good soldiers are taught to do, after all a textbook is basically a guide, and methods change with situation, location, and awareness.

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    Wikipedia helps: Center peel

    You might wanna google or search youtube for "australian peel", too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seventy6er View Post







    The last few pics especially showcase what I'm talking about.


    Thx to He219 for all those pics.
    IIRC these pics were supposed to be from shooting range, not from road block? That's for the "shooting line posing" I guess.

    And maybe the journalists taking the pics have changed? On the other hand, why not, isn't Germany planning to send 1000 troops more so maybe there's a need to show other side of the mission as well, prepare public for more "action", so to speak.

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    Apart from the good pix and long haired Germans this does not look like a photo shoot with makeup.

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    What PR? The Germans are just doing their job-a fine one at that. Would you care to join them there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hispeed1 View Post
    What PR? The Germans are just doing their job-a fine one at that. Would you care to join them there?
    What PR??! You do know that there is such a thing in all modern Armed Forces? Btw, this thread is in no way directed against our soldiers, I just observed that news coverage, especially the pics provided by Bundeswehr PR changed.

    I'm not in the German Army anymore, so, no, I can't join them. I did my tour of 6 months in another conflict some years ago.

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    Where do you see any kind of public interest in what german soldiers are doing in A-stan? To me it seems that german public couldn´t care less if, where or why the Bundeswehr is in A-stan.

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    We could also discuss it in the Bundeswehr group, Herr 76er.
    Just make a post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weasel View Post
    Where do you see any kind of public interest in what german soldiers are doing in A-stan? To me it seems that german public couldn´t care less if, where or why the Bundeswehr is in A-stan.
    the German government and the Bundeswehr have to proof to the public that the mission in Afghanistan is a good and right inventment of taxes. and for that reason it is very much of public interest. besides this, this mission also has wideranging consequences in terms of Germany's reputation, for its claims of an own permanent seat in the UN security council, international relations.. and so on.. there are numerous reasons....

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