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    Default The Oldest Military Photos thread - before WW1

    I propose to post in this thread photos and links to photos from the conflicts that took place before I WW.
    I know that single pictures are in different places on MP.net but my idea is to collect them in one place.

    My Contribution:

    Crimean War 1854-1856:
    http://militaryphotos.net/forums/sho...hlight=crimean

    Union Civil War:
    http://www.shorpy.com/civil-war-photos

    Polish "January Uprising" (1863-1864) more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Uprising
















    The last commander of the Uprising, Romuald Traugutt (interesting is that he was a russian officer during the Crimean War)

    Boer War














    Please post pics from other conflicts (especially I'm waiting for Sudan 1899, Boer war, Philipines...)
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    Default Decline during the Meiji Restoration (1868)

    outstanding pics. keep it up!



    Emperor Meiji abolished the samurai's right to be the only armed force in favor of a more modern, western-style, conscripted army in 1873. Samurai became Shizoku (士族) who retained some of their salaries, but the right to wear a katana in public was eventually abolished along with the right to execute commoners who paid them disrespect.

    The samurai finally came to an end after hundreds of years of enjoyment of their status, their powers, and their ability to shape the government of Japan. However, the rule of the state by the military class was not yet over.

    In defining how a modern Japan should be, members of the Meiji government decided to follow the footsteps of United Kingdom and Germany, basing the country on the
    concept of "noblesse oblige." Samurai were not to be a political force under the new order.

    With the Meiji reforms in the late 19th century, the samurai class was abolished, and a western-style national army was established. The Imperial Japanese Armies were conscripted, but many samurai volunteered to be soldiers and many advanced to be trained as officers. Much of the Imperial Army officer class was of samurai origin and they were highly motivated, disciplined and exceptionally trained.

    The last samurai conflict was arguably in 1877, during the Satsuma Rebellion in the Battle of Shiroyama. This conflict had its genesis in the previous uprising to defeat the Tokugawa Shogunate, leading to the Meiji Restoration.

    The newly formed government instituted radical changes, aimed at reducing the power of the feudal domains, including Satsuma, and the dissolution of samurai status. This led to the ultimately premature uprising, led by Saigō Takamori.

    Samurai were many of the early exchange students, not directly because they were samurai, but because many samurai were literate and well-educated scholars. Some of these exchange students started private schools for higher educations, while many samurai took pens instead of guns and became reporters and writers, setting up newspaper companies, and others entered governmental service.

    Only the name Shizoku existed after that. After Japan lost the World War II, the name Shizoku disappeared under the law on January 1, 1948.
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    Next portion:

    Russian-Japanese war (1904)


    From: http://process.portsmouthpeacetreaty...war/index.html
    Japanese conduct a funeral service for Russian officer.:



    Japanese soldiers aid a wounded Russian:



    Russian Twenty-third Artillery Brigade about to leave for the front.


    Japanese dead fill trenches at Port Arthur.


    The Japanese fleet in the harbor of Port Arthur after the siege. C. B. Doleac collection.






    Russian General Kuropatkin and his artillery officers in Manchuria


    Russian fleet at Port Arthur.


    Japanese reserves in Manchuria waiting for orders to advance.


    Japanese infantry on the firing line.


    Russia's East Siberian Artillery.

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    nice pic, do you have more pictures Russian-Japanes war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbadon the Despoiler View Post
    outstanding pics. keep it up!

    Cool! real samurai's
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danskeren View Post
    Cool! real samurai's
    Thanks.
    Always wonderin if they stayed and trained as a special forces with their warrior culture what kind of soldiers they can be..

    Respect to em

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    Canadian Forces during the second Boer war (South Africa) between 1899 – 1902


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    Russo-Japanese War


    (this description means maybe: Red cross hospital)












    and more: http://www.artglass.hu/index.php?mod...ia&id=67&lang=


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    Boer War




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    If you aren't familliar with this thread you may find this interesting.


    btw, nice thread!

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    ^
    Great photo!

    Excellent thread.

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    Some more Russo Japanes war pics

    Alfa
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    First photograph believed to be taken during actual combat -

    La Moncelle, France - September 1, 1870 during the Franco-Prussian war. Taken from French infantry position, images show two skirmish lines of Prussian infantry, plus reinforcements marching in at right. Casualties are seen laying about, victims most likely of the French Chassepot rifle. One man on the right (first line) just as he is hit as he has his arms outstretched. House on right and forefront has obvious battle damage and what appears to be blood trails on the ground.


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    Love the thread. I was thinking about the American Civil War photo of the Battle of Nashville (1864) as the only know photo "during battle" from that conflict, but you can't see anything in it, just a lot of smoke and mist and some guys in the foreground that are obviously in the rear with the gear.

    This La Moncelle photo is stunning - never seen it before. Looks like the reinforcements on the road are coming to the front in column of companies. It's also interesting that the rear skirmish line is strung out like the front one. I would have thought that they would be laying down in reserve as a platoon or company (or whatever) to the rear of the actual skirmish line and not "thrown" out in formation. Very interesting for many reasons. Great photo mas36 - thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by history nut View Post
    Love the thread. I was thinking about the American Civil War photo of the Battle of Nashville (1864) as the only know photo "during battle" from that conflict, but you can't see anything in it, just a lot of smoke and mist and some guys in the foreground that are obviously in the rear with the gear.
    Thank history nut! I think I know which US Civil War photo you are talking about. If I remember correctly, it's a stereoview image showing spectators watching the battle from a far. So, definately a photo taken during the time of combat certainly within eyesight and earshot of it, but not an actual photo of the fighting itself. I'll try to find it and post it here.


    edit: found it, I think. Is this the one? -


    December 15, 1864 - People watch the Battle of Nashville as it unfolds. (my caption)
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