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    "Lazar"

    From Serbia. I think.....so what do you think.....

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    Looks like a pain in the arse to get in and out of it!

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    Yea, be rough to get out of that very fast. Great clearance though. Also, hope they were wearing earplugs when they started shooting in that thing.

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    DAYM! Talkin' about rivets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolv5 View Post
    DAYM! Talkin' about rivets!

    it could be placeholders for addon armor, or they got bored and hired up a few guys with some industrial rivet guns!

    It looks interesting - is it mine protected? looks like it could be a very useful riot control vehicle too.

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    It's basically a compromise between MRAP and MRAV vehicles ,interesting design, it can be very interesting base for other developments.

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    looks like a cheep copy of the german FUCHS Transportpanzer but i like it (Y)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GjergjKastrioti View Post
    looks like a cheep copy of the german FUCHS Transportpanzer but i like it (Y)
    It has no similarities with this German APC , it's pretty unique design ,this is prototype for now. Serbian members will tell more , there will be several models, some will be cheaper and some more expensive.

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    It looks like it has a V-shaped hull. Any confirmation?

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    The rifle used by the soldier firing out the port...what is that called? Looks like an AK, sort of, but with a different shaped magazine.

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    Is a serbian M21

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    When I first saw it I was like why all these windows, then I realized. Pretty cool design!

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    It appears based on a FAP truck chassis (you know, the type that looks like a Mercedes-Benz). To me it looks like a Tatrapan, a Boxer, a VBCI and an aforementioned truck had a (productive) foursome - no offense intended, I really like it. I wonder what family of specialized vehicles it will spawn.
    And yes, the hull is V-shaped.

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    It may have roots from this



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rictor View Post
    It looks like it has a V-shaped hull. Any confirmation?
    Yes it has V shaped hull, it is two vehicles in one MRAP and MRAV.

    Development of Lazar multi-role armored combat vehicle

    In service with Serbian Army for over twenty years is
    armored fighting vehicle of BOV family, specialized for use
    by military police units in various tactical missions of riot
    control and anti-terrorist operations, designated BOV-3 or
    VPB M-86. The vehicle was developed based on TAM 150
    intended for wide range of potential customers, including
    the Serbian Army.
    Functional model of the vehicle was completed in 2008
    and it is publicly presented for the first time in the pages of
    this issue or REPORT. Code name of the vehicle is LAZAR,
    evocating the memory of Prince Lazar who headed Serbian
    armored cavalry and the entire Serbian army, heroically losing
    his life in the Battle of Kosovo on St. Vid’s day in the year
    1389.
    In its concept and applied technical solutions, the vehicle
    is particularly adapted for use by modern infantry units and
    special forces engaged in missions within anti-terrorist and
    peacekeeping operations, with emphasis on engagements in
    urban conditions, settlements and on intersected terrains,
    in environments involving ambushes, antitank mines and
    improvised explosive devices set up by an adversary.
    The concept of this vehicle practically represents an
    advanced MRAP, featuring certain properties (mobility, terrain
    negotiating capability and fire power) of MRAV class
    combat vehicle, this combining main characteristics of both,
    nowadays highly important classes of wheeled armored vehicles.
    When designing the concept of the vehicle, special emphasis
    was placed on achievement of high mobility, system of
    armor protection, armament system, ability to transport 10
    infantrymen who should be able to quickly embark or evacuate
    the vehicle using tail gate.
    Embarked section is so accommodated that fighters face
    large portholes made of ballistic glass equipped with firing
    ports, ensuring excellent visibility of surrounding terrain
    and ability to open fire with personal weapons.
    When designing the concept of vehicle’s propulsion and
    suspension, after careful study and modeling of feasible technical
    solutions, it was decided to adopt 8x8 drive, featuring
    live axles and springs which would provide high level of protection
    from effects of antitank mines, at the same time
    ensuring high off-road mobility.
    During cross-country testing, the vehicle demonstrated
    very high off-road mobility in varying terrain and weather
    conditions, very high ability to negotiate gradients, trenches
    and, in particular, side slopes. Superior slope negotiating
    ability is especially important when vehicle’s high center of
    gravity is taken into account, designed so in order to provide
    better mine protection.
    High level of armor protection was achieved by adopting
    of steel armor hull that, in its basic version, includes ballistic
    glass panes and provides protection that meets STANAG
    4569, level III+ (protection against 12.7x107 mm B-32 API
    round fired from 100 m) at front and level II at the sides and
    rear. By fitting add-on armor of laminated composite structure,
    attached on basic armor, vehicle ballistic protection is
    rated level V at front and level IV at all other sides. Armored
    hull design allows quick fitting and replacement of add-on
    armor sections by vehicle crew, which, when fitted, do not
    degrade basic functions of the vehicle.
    Optionally, fitting of reactive explosive armor attached to
    add-on armor will provide effective protection against infantry
    hand launchers of RPG-7 type which nowadays represent
    main threat in already mentioned type of warfare.
    Hull bottom is V-shaped that, in addition to high ground
    clearance and solid drive train, ensures very high level of
    protection from antitank mine and IED, according to level
    IIIa (resistant against blasts of AT mine or IED containing
    6kg of HE occurring under vehicle wheels and floor)
    Vehicle armament system is situated in the area between
    driver’s and commander’s compartment and area that
    accommodates embarked troops. Concept of the vehicle
    allows incorporation of a variety of turrets, cupolas and
    weapon stations, depending on main application of the vehicle
    and planned budget of the user.
    Simplest armament consists of partially armored modular
    cupola M06 with detachable mounts, able to support the
    following weapon alternatives:
    - machine gun cal. 7.62 x 54 mm M86 with electric trigger,
    - machine gun cal.. 12.7 x 108 mm,
    - automatic grenade launcher cal. 30 mm.
    - cannon M55 (HS 804) cal. 20 x 110 mm
    Existing functional model, as illustrated, mounts lightodbrambene
    weight cupola LK08 armed with cannon cal. 20 x 110 mm
    M55 (HS804), with belt feeding, and machine gun cal. 7.62
    x 54 mm M86.
    The concept permits installation of different weapon stations
    equipped with optoelectronic fire control system and
    an integrated weapons system that may consists of a combination
    the following weapon alternatives:
    Cannon cal. 20 mm M55
    Cannon cal. 30 mm M86
    Wire-guided AT missile system Malutka 2 with twin
    launcher
    Machine gun cal. 7.62 mm M86
    Machine gun cal. 12. 7 mm M87
    Automatic grenade launcher cal. 30 mm M93
    Overall mass of cupola with weapon station is up to two tons,
    diameter of its support bearing is up to 1600 mm. All versions
    of the turret, cupola or weapon stations – in addition to listed
    weapon alternatives – are equipped with 4 dispensers of smoke
    charges.
    Vehicle crew consists of three permanent members – commander,
    driver and weapons operator – plus embarked section
    of 10 soldiers – infantrymen, military police, antiterrorist squad,
    special unit, police or gendarmerie unit, etc.
    Folding seats are attached to vehicle roof providing easier crew
    circulation and added crew protection against effects of blasts
    under the vehicle.
    Embarked section of 10 troops is transported at rear of the
    vehicle, sitting on folding, ergonomically shaped seats attached
    to vehicle roof, five men at each side sitting back-to-back and
    facing the sides of the vehicle, able to observe terrain through
    T7 vehicle chassis elements and fitting of armored hull.
    Vehicle can transport section of 6-8 military police who can
    fire small arms from the with permanent crew comprising
    commander and weapons operator who can fire cal. 7.62mm
    machine gun M86 with electric trigger from partially armored
    cupola M86. Vehicle also mounts smoke pot dispenser and
    folding grill used to subdue riots. Hull armor provides ballistic
    protection from 7.62 mm AP round fired from distances
    of more than 100 m.
    Jugoimpport-SDPR, as an integrator of Serbian defense
    industry and in keeping with own development strategy that
    monitors and analyzes the trends of arms and defense equipment
    developments and compatibility of noted trends with
    actual and potential personal, research&development, testing
    and technological capabilities of Serbian defense industry
    and its technological partners, has initiated development
    of a family of multi-role armored vehicles, designed for multiple
    tactical missions in potential combat environments,
    portholes of ballistic glass and to fire personal weapons – assault
    rifles, light machine guns or grenade launchers cal. 40 mm –
    through firing ports situated below lookout ports. The space
    available permits easy embarking, evacuation and comfortable
    accommodation of soldiers wearing full ballistic protection
    including protective vests with ballistic plates and tactical vests
    with ammunition and other gear. Space between driver’s and
    commander’s compartment and embarked crew area, left and
    right from turret basket i.e. from weapon operator’s station,
    serves as storage bay for a range of infantry weapons, antitank
    hand launchers, portable antitank wire guided missile systems,
    portable air defense missile launchers, etc.
    The crew enter and exit the vehicle through tailgate which is
    also provided with portholes and firing ports and enables embarking
    or disembarking of complete crew in about 10 seconds
    including their taking of seats. There are also two side doors,
    plus two emergency roof hatches.
    Observations made by the user during demonstration of the
    vehicle noted that armored vehicle LAZAR provides comfortable
    transport, excellent visibility, quick and easy driver training,
    unhindered and effective use of personal weapons, significant
    fire support provided by disembarked section using the
    complement of weapons carried on board, unhindered and rapid
    disembarking and embarking and, an important impression,
    feeling of security and domination in the battlefield.
    Basic concept of the vehicle represents the foundation for
    building up its different versions – command vehicle, medical
    evacuation, logistic support (cargo) vehicle, engineering /recovery
    vehicle, mine clearing vehicle, as well as platform for selfpropelled
    mortar cal. 120mm, self-propelled artillery piece cal.
    122/155mm, artillery, rocket or hybrid (artillery/rocket) or air
    defense system, etc.
    Special equipment (on customers’ request)
    • Air-conditioning employing compressor split system,
    • VHF radio set of 15W output, with UMR
    • Filtering-ventilating system creating overpressure within
    the hull, air-filtering system including
    CBR protection
    • Command information system
    (KIS) with GPS based navigation
    • Panoramic optoelectronic reconnaissance-
    observation station, stabilized
    in two planes, fitted with
    CCD TV camera, thermal imaging
    camera and laser rangefinder
    Command information system (KIS)
    is a hardware/software device that
    provides support in mission planning
    and preparing to unit commanding
    officers, their decision making, organization,
    preparing of reports, issuing
    of orders, locating of target positions
    and similar activities related to
    combat activities.

    main functions of Kis
    - Presentation of own position and
    positions of other vehicles on situation
    chart,
    - Mission planning support,
    - Determining of own position and
    navigation,
    - Communication with superior and coordinating units,
    - Exchange of information,
    - Participation in target locating, tracking and firing
    engagements.

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